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[Griffionday]

Nerjin: Please stop lurking or at least post a quick disclaimer giving us an eta of when you'll be back in the game.

Birdy: Why are you exclusively focusing on a player who is unlikely to be willing to cooperate and play?  I've no particular issue with your case on IG; however, even when you're talking to Rolepgeek your focus is entirely on IG rather than providing anything resembling a dialogue with our new player.  Why are you avoiding conversation?

[Nerjin]

I might not be coming back actually. This is a low probability thing as I'm pretty sure I'll be coming back around the 13th but for now I don't have enough time for mafia.

So uh... Request Replacement on a Condition I'm only requesting replacement if you absolutely CANNOT wait until the 13th.

[Griffionday]

I might not be coming back actually. This is a low probability thing as I'm pretty sure I'll be coming back around the 13th but for now I don't have enough time for mafia.

So uh... Request Replacement on a Condition I'm only requesting replacement if you absolutely CANNOT wait until the 13th.

Looks at date... Yeah that should be fine, thanks.  Good luck with whatever it is that is taking your time.

Extend

[Rolepgeek]

Extend

[birdy51]

Birdy: Why are you exclusively focusing on a player who is unlikely to be willing to cooperate and play?  I've no particular issue with your case on IG; however, even when you're talking to Rolepgeek your focus is entirely on IG rather than providing anything resembling a dialogue with our new player.  Why are you avoiding conversation?

Griffionday:

I am not quite understanding where you see me avoiding conversation. IG was a focus because Rolepgeek wanted me to specify, something which I had done in the past.

Further, as to why I am focused on IG, there is not many players in this game to make a case against. Griffinpup is on vacation. Nerjin has recently had something come up. Sailflame never entered the game at all. You have also said that you are looking to be replaced, so I am hesitant to bother you with questions.

That only leaves two players besides myself as "active". Both of whom I have been trying to communicate with at some level. IG has been my main focus, as he struck as a player exhibiting the oddest behavior.

Rolepgeek:

I've noticed something. You've mentioned my own predecessors, Chink and Boy quite a bit, but you've never had an occasion to bring up Powder Miner. How would you define his actions in this game?

[birdy51]

Also, I shall throw out an Extend vote as well.

[Rolepgeek]

Birdy: I didn't mention him, as he is my predecessor, and as such I know what his alignment is. I have no need to inspect his actions. Since you ask me to, however, I suppose I will.

From what I've seen, it seems like he's been trying to help out the new players, and asked a few questions, though with DavetheGrave it's hard to find fault with him for not voting anyone else for the day. And that's about it, since then had to drop out/go on a trip.

[Griffionday]

I am not quite understanding where you see me avoiding conversation. IG was a focus because Rolepgeek wanted me to specify, something which I had done in the past.

Further, as to why I am focused on IG, there is not many players in this game to make a case against. Griffinpup is on vacation. Nerjin has recently had something come up. Sailflame never entered the game at all. You have also said that you are looking to be replaced, so I am hesitant to bother you with questions.

That only leaves two players besides myself as "active". Both of whom I have been trying to communicate with at some level. IG has been my main focus, as he struck as a player exhibiting the oddest behavior.

Firstly, while do I appreciate your consideration, I have also said that I'm sticking around to allow people to ask me questions; what I'd rather NOT be doing is pressing cases, hence why I've not voted, but the utter lack of sensible play in this game means I need to step in some. 

What I'm seeing though is that of your two questions to Rolepgeek that he can honestly answer, only one seems to lead anywhere into a analysis of him.  Your fist question "Any more questions for me?" comes after a defense of your predecessors actions (which is fair) but doesn't really counter analyze Rolepgeek.  Your one question that has some depth "Did you want the day to end early?" isn't followed up with any force.  You mention that his answer was confusing, which is a valid point, but you lack conviction behind your argument.

[Okami No Rei]

webadict has replaced SailFlame

Day has been extended.

Day 2 now ends on Wednesday, August 14 at 8:00pm CST

webadict (0) -
griffinpup (0) -
Griffionday (0) -
Rolepgeek (0) -
Imperial Guardsman (3) - griffinpup, birdy51, Rolepgeek
birdy51 (1) - Imperial Guardsman
Nerjin (0) -

Not Voting - Griffionday, Nerjin, webadict

Extend (0/3) -
Shorten (0/4) -

Griffionday has requested replacement.

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[webadict]

Oh geez. You guys have talked a lot. Anyone want to sum up what's been said? Or how about everyone? That way, I can get a good bias check on y'all.

[birdy51]

Rolepgeek:

Birdy: I didn't mention him, as he is my predecessor, and as such I know what his alignment is. I have no need to inspect his actions. Since you ask me to, however, I suppose I will.

From what I've seen, it seems like he's been trying to help out the new players, and asked a few questions, though with DavetheGrave it's hard to find fault with him for not voting anyone else for the day. And that's about it, since then had to drop out/go on a trip.

I'm surprised you didn't find it a bit odd that he simply voted DavetheGrave and hit the road. Granted, he had his reasons and obligations. But, if he was no longer able to be active in the game, why did he allow his vote to linger? What would he have gained from it?

Here's my theory. I think he voted against him, because he knew DavetheGrave was a safe, easy lynch. So he secured it, and then headed off into whatever business he had to attend to.

What say you in response?

Griffionday:

I am not quite understanding where you see me avoiding conversation. IG was a focus because Rolepgeek wanted me to specify, something which I had done in the past.

Further, as to why I am focused on IG, there is not many players in this game to make a case against. Griffinpup is on vacation. Nerjin has recently had something come up. Sailflame never entered the game at all. You have also said that you are looking to be replaced, so I am hesitant to bother you with questions.

That only leaves two players besides myself as "active". Both of whom I have been trying to communicate with at some level. IG has been my main focus, as he struck as a player exhibiting the oddest behavior.

Firstly, while do I appreciate your consideration, I have also said that I'm sticking around to allow people to ask me questions; what I'd rather NOT be doing is pressing cases, hence why I've not voted, but the utter lack of sensible play in this game means I need to step in some. 

What I'm seeing though is that of your two questions to Rolepgeek that he can honestly answer, only one seems to lead anywhere into a analysis of him.  Your fist question "Any more questions for me?" comes after a defense of your predecessors actions (which is fair) but doesn't really counter analyze Rolepgeek.  Your one question that has some depth "Did you want the day to end early?" isn't followed up with any force.  You mention that his answer was confusing, which is a valid point, but you lack conviction behind your argument.

The first question was not meant to analyze Rolepgeek. If he had any other questions for me, I did not want him to be afraid to ask. As to your second point, his response made sense. I didn't really detect anything fishy about his response, so I let the issue drop.

However, you've made me curious. What is striking you as bad play right now?

Webadict:

Oh geez. You guys have talked a lot. Anyone want to sum up what's been said? Or how about everyone? That way, I can get a good bias check on y'all.

I don't think we've talked that much, have we? Since I've been in the game, there has only had some light discussion. To sum things up in a short way...


Rolepgeek suspects me of being scum based on the actions of my predecessors Chink and Boy in relation to my own actions now. He is currently voting IG for his scummy nature.

I'm struggling to put a case together and have been mildy flailing. I voted IG to try to get him to justify his earlier behavior, but have had no luck so far.

Griffionday is participating from the wings, commenting and questioning us both on our play styles, but he has not been seriously questioned by either of us. In addition, he's currently seeking a replacement due to being busy, and is thus reluctant to press any cases.

[webadict]

Well, there's 31 pages, so that's a lot of posts, and therefore a lot of talking. Is everyone just super quiet now?

[birdy51]

Well, there's 31 pages, so that's a lot of posts, and therefore a lot of talking. Is everyone just super quiet now?

Ah, I see what you mean now. I should have asked how far back you wanted me to go. For now, yes, it has been relatively quiet.

From what I understand though, the first few days were somewhat crazy, as they usually are. There was quite a bit of discussion and debate, with Griffinpup, Imperial Guardsman, and DavetheGrave being the major targets of the lynch. It ended in the mislynch of DavetheGrave, whose voting patterns caught the ire of the Town.

Day 2 continued in the same way, such that Griffinpup and Imperial Guardsman were still the main subjects of ire. That was however until we hit a wall of replacements. Things have slowed down significantly since then, as several players have either left on trips, are busy, or have been otherwise distracted. About this time, both me and Rolepgeek have entered the game as replacements for older players.

[webadict]

Okay, so do you have a case for IG?

[birdy51]

Bit less of a case, and more of an accusation.

For background information, Griffinpup was targeted early on in the day by Griffionday, Gun, and IG. Imperial Guardsman was the third voter, but did not give strong reasoning as to why he was voting Griffinpup.  Here is what I compiled of my own thoughts on the subject:

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Imperial Guardsman: Support your arguments. Preferably in something longer than single sentence groups. Beyond the flimsy reasoning on the basis of a mislynch, you didn't seem to have a single good reason for holding your vote on Griffonpup besides the fact that two other players had already voted for him. Do explain yourself.

As for the examples you requested. Imperial Guardsman, you will want to read this as well as it pertains to you.

Yeah, we remember day 1 griffinpup

Remember what from Day 1? The mislynch?

From my own experience, I have found mislynches are not rare occurrences. They happen whether we like it or not.

Until you can prove yourself innocent from your actions on day one, the vote stays.

Note how he still fails to specify any specific examples. IG uses a blanket term, "your actions". No specifics, just "your actions".  Implying that Griffinpup did do something wrong… But he doesn't have the slightest clue what that action is.

Thus, how can he expect Griffinpup to effectively defend himself?

Back.
Unvote.
Griffinpup seems town.. for now. Ill check the posts and decide who to vote next.

And now, suddenly Griffinpup is Town FOR NOW, without a single whisper about how he arrived at this miraculous conclusion.


Frankly, his reasoning is baffling me right now and I don't have much to go off of, save for the fact that he has seemingly no clue what he is doing. Not supporting your arguments is a terrible policy to uphold, no matter what role you play. So at the very least I want to see IG put some kind of effort forth in his gameplay from here on out.

This is after all a BM. I'm still in this game to win, but I also want to see players improve. Starting with him by forcing him to attend to his past actions or fall. The ball is in his court now. Whether he wants to take the time defend himself is his decision.

However, given that his response was less than adequate, I am caught between wondering if he's just a poor townie or if he has more malicious intentions. After voting for me, he has since disappeared off the face of the earth.

I'm beginning to wonder if I am wasting my vote by holding it on him.