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Author Topic: BM XLII - Game Over: Mafia Win!  (Read 75952 times)

Nerjin

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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #480 on: August 13, 2013, 09:29:16 pm »

Ah I see. I had assumed you were referring to my actual unvote as opposed to a hypothetical one. Well...


[W]hat action could another player perform that would cause you to unvote him and vote someone else?

Probably something that would out them as scum. Such as: Bandwagoning even more obviously, a poorly reasoned argument that would require LARGE leaps of logic, or maybe outright claiming. At this point I think there's very little considering he's committed the previous three. That is my view of the matter my... ward?
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #481 on: August 14, 2013, 02:17:17 am »

Birdy:
Griffionday:

What I'm seeing though is that of your two questions to Rolepgeek that he can honestly answer, only one seems to lead anywhere into a analysis of him.  Your fist question "Any more questions for me?" comes after a defense of your predecessors actions (which is fair) but doesn't really counter analyze Rolepgeek.  Your one question that has some depth "Did you want the day to end early?" isn't followed up with any force.  You mention that his answer was confusing, which is a valid point, but you lack conviction behind your argument.

The first question was not meant to analyze Rolepgeek. If he had any other questions for me, I did not want him to be afraid to ask. As to your second point, his response made sense. I didn't really detect anything fishy about his response, so I let the issue drop.
He is here though and you've not


However, you've made me curious. What is striking you as bad play right now?
For one the way that the game seems to be hopping from one obvious lynch target to another.  My theory is that one has quite a while to develop reads, why focus on someone you're already fairly confident is scum?

The worst instance was this though:
Birdy: I didn't vote extension because I saw no point. I know who I think is scummy.
Please note they had exclusively focused on the people they considered scummy and hardly even talked to the others at that point.  When I saw that I realized I probably should step in for a bit, see if things could be improved by shouting at them.

Webadict:
Oh geez. You guys have talked a lot. Anyone want to sum up what's been said? Or how about everyone? That way, I can get a good bias check on y'all.

The game is in a rapid tail-spin.  Due to Dude acting VERY scummy and being unable to account for his actions he ended up getting lynched he was summarily lynched.  Today started with a jump at griffinpup who appeared to have been bandwagoning Dave, IG started the day acting scummy however, and so almost all attention skipped over to him.  We've had a ton of replacements, and the game has stalled.
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Okami No Rei

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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #482 on: August 14, 2013, 05:59:48 am »

14 Hours Remain in the Day

Day 2 ends on Wednesday, August 14 at 8:00pm CST

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Imperial Guardsman (4) - griffinpup, birdy51, Rolepgeek, Nerjin
birdy51 (1) - Imperial Guardsman
Nerjin (0) -

Not Voting - Griffionday, webadict

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Griffionday has requested replacement.

griffinpup has been prodded.
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...start thinking that everything somebody does is scummy or that everything is part of some scummy plan to be incredibly devious and mislead the town...

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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #483 on: August 14, 2013, 08:05:10 am »

Well... This sucks.

So, just in case it's not clear, mafia, please don't be rude and kill the active players. This is a learning game, and it makes learning difficult when 2 of 5 are the only ones talking. I would much rather we had 3 active players at lylo than the mafia win by technicalities (such as no one being able to vote against you).

But, I agree, Imperial Guardsman's play has been sloppy, plus he doesn't appear to be coming back. I still don't feel like I have good reads on everyone else, but the game has to go on. Bleh. Please don't be dumb town. And if he is, everyone please take that as a lesson to not do things like that. I used to do it, and it doesn't work very well unless you've planned ahead.

Imperial Guardsman.
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Three Replacements Requested
« Reply #484 on: August 14, 2013, 04:18:05 pm »

So I don't have the literal right to ask someone to respond to my post after they ask for replacement?
You don't have a right to expect an answer until they're replaced. 
I disagree, but whatever.
1. I'm not saying explain to him why you aren't lurking, I'm saying only defending yourself based on posting frequency is stupid. 

2. So you're saying one should do heavy research before voting for someone based on a case?  I agree in theory, but in practice this means that votes like Nerjin's current one are going to be more common.  I prefer having a case on the person you wish to lynch over leaving your pressure vote on someone who hasn't responded.
That obviously wasn't going to be my whole case.  That was mainly my precursor.  The fact that he refused to respond even to this kinda put a damper on my follow-up.
Care to explain what your follow up was?  If it's real it shouldn't require you to do any work...
Sure.  I would of then pushed him on the fact that the time-period was substantially less then twenty four hours and that I posted every day.  I would ask him his definition of lurking and explain why it was wrong.
Griffinpup: Why are you focusing exclusively on the past in this game when you could be generating your own material to read?  Interact with everyone, and once you've a feeling for them, move on and talk to someone else.  Seriously.  Your emphasis on reads, events, and past oriented hunting is equally detrimental to the game as IG. 
Wow.  You're brilliant.  We should totally do RVS again and ask each other inane questions to generate new content.  Of course, pushing people on stuff that they did in the past to generate content is a terrible idea, so we shouldn't do that.
Your emphasis on reads, events, and past oriented hunting is equally detrimental to the game as IG. 
Lying piece of crap.  I asked someone to elaborate on reads I couldn't understand ONCE.  It's not an "emphasis" of mine.  I have no idea why this seems like such a big deal to you.  Also, please find me somewhere where I put an emphasis on an event and why it's been so absolutely detrimental.  I'm fairly certain it doesn't exist.  I also have no idea why you are so against pushing people on anything that happened in the past.
I'm glad you're focusing exclusively on easy lynches (it makes you kinda obviously scum though), but don't you think you should question the more difficult ones as well?  I can guarantee there's far more satisfaction to be found there.
Lay off Griffionday.  Either grow some balls and vote me with a case, or stop insinuating that I'm scum and insulting my play style.
Oh geez. You guys have talked a lot. Anyone want to sum up what's been said? Or how about everyone? That way, I can get a good bias check on y'all.
Easy.
1.  Dave played like the newbiest and scummiest scum ever, and was summarily lynched because of it.
2.  Three people decided to vote me at the beginning of day two.  One of their cases were driven by emotion and was therefor fallacious and made up.  Griffionday had another case, (which didn't actually suck) but he requested a replacement shortly after.  IG voted me without a case.
3.  everyone requested replacement.

Webadict:
Who did you replace?  And who did that person replace?
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Nerjin

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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Three Replacements Requested
« Reply #485 on: August 14, 2013, 04:41:08 pm »

Webadict:
Who did you replace?  And who did that person replace?

Check the OP for this information. The mods always keep this stuff up to date.

Player List [7/7]:
TheWetSheep GUNINANRUNIN TheWetSheep SailFlame webadict
griffinpup
Griffionday
Powder Miner Rolepgeek
Imperial Guardsman
DaveTheGrave - Lynched Day One - Goblin Thief (Vanilla Town)
Boy Chink birdy51

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Nerjin
notquitethere - Killed Night One - Goblin Sergeant (Cop)

Scum IC:
Deathsword

Replacement List:
No one around...

Just to show who's where and what.
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #486 on: August 14, 2013, 04:55:10 pm »

Thanks Nerjin.

so Webadict:
Just to make sure, are there any outstanding points on Gun's case on me that you want answering?
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #487 on: August 14, 2013, 05:52:57 pm »

Thanks Nerjin.

so Webadict:
Just to make sure, are there any outstanding points on Gun's case on me that you want answering?
I don't know what this case was, and even if I did... Meh. It's not my case. You'd be answering someone else's questions. I mean, if you WANT to address it, I won't stop you.
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #488 on: August 14, 2013, 06:26:02 pm »

Thanks Nerjin.

so Webadict:
Just to make sure, are there any outstanding points on Gun's case on me that you want answering?
I don't know what this case was, and even if I did... Meh. It's not my case. You'd be answering someone else's questions. I mean, if you WANT to address it, I won't stop you.
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so you really haven't read this thread.  Ah well.  I was just checking that you weren't expecting additional refutation.  You obviously aren't, so consider the matter closed.
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Okami No Rei

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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #489 on: August 14, 2013, 06:49:37 pm »

One hour remaining in the day.
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #490 on: August 14, 2013, 07:12:59 pm »

Thanks Nerjin.

so Webadict:
Just to make sure, are there any outstanding points on Gun's case on me that you want answering?
I don't know what this case was, and even if I did... Meh. It's not my case. You'd be answering someone else's questions. I mean, if you WANT to address it, I won't stop you.
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so you really haven't read this thread.  Ah well.  I was just checking that you weren't expecting additional refutation.  You obviously aren't, so consider the matter closed.
Yeeeeah, no, as much as I'd WANT to have read the thread, it's just not going to happen. I just can't do it.
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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #491 on: August 14, 2013, 08:05:52 pm »

Spoiler: Dwarven Meat (click to show/hide)

Day 2 has ended.

Imperial Guardsman has been lynched!

Imperial Guardsman was a Dwarven Manager (Mafia Rolecop)

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Re: BM XLII - Day Two - Goblin Food - Replacement Requested
« Reply #492 on: August 15, 2013, 06:27:49 pm »

Spoiler: Missing Friend (click to show/hide)

Night 2 has ended.

webadict has been killed!

webadict was a Goblin Thief (Vanilla Town)

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Re: BM XLII - Day Three - Missing Friend - Replacement Requested
« Reply #493 on: August 15, 2013, 07:36:28 pm »

Real douchebag move, scum. Real douchebag move...
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Re: BM XLII - Day Three - Missing Friend
« Reply #494 on: August 15, 2013, 08:37:29 pm »

Today just wasnt my day.
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