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[Neonivek]

Yeah an agent intentionally limiting themselves and basically injuring their effectiveness in order to look cool makes total sense. If this was Devil May Cry

[Neonivek]

Well, it's all about building a reputation anyway.

You can ALWAYS come up with the excuse that it is just more impressive to go without it. Heck you could use that excuse in the Trauma Center games... Real doctors don't need time stopping powers, so they deduct a score.

Yet the fact still remains that someone intentionally limiting themselves for no reason other then it looks cooler... means they are incompetent.

As for Phantom Pain... sorry that explanation is non-canonical. Peacewalker had the same mechanic as well for calls. I honestly would accept it if that sort of thinking applied anywhere else other than a select few weapons and items... Such as a bonus for not even bringing a main weapon on a mission.

[H4zardZ1]

It really makes sense that Snake would show off by not using the most powerful gadgets.  What's a little weirder is that the mysterious clients care, and pay more

Probably because it needs batteries that need to be recharged/replaced when the mission is done.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

Also Gameplay/Story Segregation, it's unfair to let someone get a foxhound rank by abusing the stealth camo (As easy as it is to get a foxhound rank in the first place but you get what I mean).

[Neonivek]

Also Gameplay/Story Segregation, it's unfair to let someone get a foxhound rank by abusing the stealth camo (As easy as it is to get a foxhound rank in the first place but you get what I mean).

Yes that is basically what it is.

That is why it Irks me.

Some gameplay and story segregation I can understand because you almost HAVE to include it otherwise you end up needing to bend over backwards to serve the narrative and stand a good chance of sinking the plot. It also makes you appreciate even more games that blur or eliminate these lines.

It is when the gameplay and story actively fight against each other and try to undo the other that it gets my attention, and when it is absolutely needless (or highlights laziness) that it becomes annoying.

For example Trauma Center second opinion's slow time ability limited your score, yet the narrative often considered his ability to use said ability as one of the only reasons he succeeded so often (And no the game isn't that tough). Trauma Center New Blood (the game that came after) actually fixed that and made the special ability much more integrated into the story AND into the gameplay as well and was often necessary during certain sections.

Peacewalker also didn't bug me because the magical chat commands were such a "cheat" and so clearly non-canonical that its segregation was more then understandable. Phantom Pain though doesn't have that excuse because it is basic equipment and commands that any commander should be making use of, but the game actively punishes you for even using it, making the gameplay and story actively fight each other.

Likewise to bring it back to Phantom Pain, lets pretend that penalty doesn't exist. The fact that you get more of a score for not killing your opponents? (and thus conversely penalized for not taking lethal action) makes sense within the narrative to an extent. Yeah your supposed to be the greatest soldier who ever lived, of course you stand above the necessity of ordinary soldiers... and to my knowledge I believe you can more then still get S-Ranks using only lethal weaponry.

[Neonivek]

It doesn't matter The Video Game!

So you finally have a movie or TV show tie in with its own fiction and story and!!!

It doesn't matter... Nothing you do matters because you know what must happen in the end.

This was actually one of the main forms of inertia that stopped me from playing Shadow of Mordor and frankly is one of the many detriments to its gameplay (and I honestly think that game is kind of alright... though very raw because they didn't know what they really had).

And don't think that side stories usually survive this because not only are they usually non-canon but they often just feel less important or are just slightly altered versions of the original.

[Shadowlord]

You should play, like, Crusader Kings II or something. I dunno. I can't remember all the other things you don't like right now to know if there's anything in it that would trigger you, but you Choose Your Own Adventure and Stuff Happens! Emergent Plot! Etc. You don't have much control of your army composition or size, though, which makes it hard to do anything to not lose wars when attacked by someone bigger, for instance.

[Neonivek]

You should play, like, Crusader Kings II or something. I dunno. I can't remember all the other things you don't like right now to know if there's anything in it that would trigger you, but you Choose Your Own Adventure and Stuff Happens! Emergent Plot! Etc.

I didn't like Crusader Kings 2 but it wasn't because of any pet peeve really.

It wasn't simulation enough for me to get a kick out of playing each of my character's lives. The people just aren't people in Crusader Kings 2.

Nor was it strategy enough for me to get a kick out of the tactical gameplay. It usually was a game about finding ways around the rules they give you.

It just didn't scratch any of my itches and left me feeling wholly unsatisfied.

The closest thing to a pet peeve is quite a bit of rip off DLC... but that is more Paradox's go to strategy. Though I guess the interface, but then I'd be complaining that a game attempted to be complex.

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Though I will say if Crusader Kings 3 ever becomes a thing, or another game like it, and they overhaul the HECK out of the AI to the point where the people in the game feel at least like 1/4th of a real person... I will jump on it!

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I actually like a lot of things. Pet Peeves are really something that bugs me.

I LIKE Phantom Pain. The whole "Gameplay attacking the story" aspect hurts the experience but the fact that it is a great game shines through even beyond that.

I like Shadows of Mordor. The fact that the game just flat out doesn't matter and feels more like fan service at times then a genuine story hurts the experience... But the game is more then that one aspect.

[SOLDIER First]

I didn't notice a gameplay vs. story aspect too much in The Phantom Pain. Nothing really contradicted itself (but you do wonder how

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Quiet talks with lungs cooked well-done

), IIRC.
The score limitation I get; it's from cheesing missions. If you hire the World's Greatest Soldier to do something, and he has to turn himself invisible or call an airstrike to do it, you're not going to pay a price worthy of the World's Greatest Soldier, now, are you?

[Neonivek]

If you hire the World's Greatest Soldier to do something, and he has to turn himself invisible or call an airstrike to do it, you're not going to pay a price worthy of the World's Greatest Soldier, now, are you?

That isn't what happens. Very few of the missions are given specifically to Big Boss but rather to your organization.

As well many of the missions they could care less how you achieve your goals... In fact almost all of them.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

I didn't notice a gameplay vs. story aspect too much in The Phantom Pain. Nothing really contradicted itself (but you do wonder how

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Quiet talks with lungs cooked well-done

), IIRC.
The score limitation I get; it's from cheesing missions. If you hire the World's Greatest Soldier to do something, and he has to turn himself invisible or call an airstrike to do it, you're not going to pay a price worthy of the World's Greatest Soldier, now, are you?

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Either the parasites healed her lungs or parasites just give her the oxygen required for her vocal cords to work, those bastards seem capable of anything.
Though I still wonder why she doesn't just SPEAK IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FOR ENGLISH TO COMMUNICATE, AKA literally any of the three different languages Big Boss has for real time translation!

[hector13]

I didn't notice a gameplay vs. story aspect too much in The Phantom Pain. Nothing really contradicted itself (but you do wonder how

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Quiet talks with lungs cooked well-done

), IIRC.
The score limitation I get; it's from cheesing missions. If you hire the World's Greatest Soldier to do something, and he has to turn himself invisible or call an airstrike to do it, you're not going to pay a price worthy of the World's Greatest Soldier, now, are you?

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Either the parasites healed her lungs or parasites just give her the oxygen required for her vocal cords to work, those bastards seem capable of anything.
Though I still wonder why she doesn't just SPEAK IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FOR ENGLISH TO COMMUNICATE, AKA literally any of the three different languages Big Boss has for real time translation!

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Skull Face is a dirty bastard though, there's no telling he didn't infect her with other strains, or even that she picked up other strains from other people.

Anyway, one of the four languages that the support unit could translate was Kikongo... which was the strain that caused the epidemic

There was also the mutation nonsense going on, which is why she left. Even if she didn't speak, there was the potential for it to spontaneously mutate - though how that would happen when the parasites aren't breeding and she doesn't have the Walbachia, I don't know.

[Execute/Dumbo.exe]

I didn't notice a gameplay vs. story aspect too much in The Phantom Pain. Nothing really contradicted itself (but you do wonder how

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Quiet talks with lungs cooked well-done

), IIRC.
The score limitation I get; it's from cheesing missions. If you hire the World's Greatest Soldier to do something, and he has to turn himself invisible or call an airstrike to do it, you're not going to pay a price worthy of the World's Greatest Soldier, now, are you?

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Either the parasites healed her lungs or parasites just give her the oxygen required for her vocal cords to work, those bastards seem capable of anything.
Though I still wonder why she doesn't just SPEAK IN A DIFFERENT LANGUAGE FOR ENGLISH TO COMMUNICATE, AKA literally any of the three different languages Big Boss has for real time translation!

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Skull Face is a dirty bastard though, there's no telling he didn't infect her with other strains, or even that she picked up other strains from other people.

Anyway, one of the four languages that the support unit could translate was Kikongo... which was the strain that caused the epidemic

There was also the mutation nonsense going on, which is why she left. Even if she didn't speak, there was the potential for it to spontaneously mutate - though how that would happen when the parasites aren't breeding and she doesn't have the Walbachia, I don't know.

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But she spoke to code talker in a different language, remember? She specifically said that IN THAT LANGUAGE!

[hector13]

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But she spoke to code talker in a different language, remember? She specifically said that IN THAT LANGUAGE!

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Code Talker was the one developing the parasites though, and he's Navajo, which is the language that they were speaking. It's also the only language to which the parasites don't respond, and apparently isn't spoken much outside of the Navajo people according to the game... so Snake probably wouldn't understand. Though why CT and Quiet couldn't translate for him isn't really explained...

I think the cassettes mention that CT was initially going to be developing an English strain for the parasite so the Navajo language wouldn't die out, but then Skull Face found him and made him do the other stuff as a cover for the English strain.

Discoverd a pet peeve, to remain on topic:

Music that you can't turn off

Madden 16, wtf man? I don't want to listen to all this rap and modern shit, why can't you just give me the NFL Films music?

I shall be playing with the Menu Music volume set to 0, methinks.

[Shadowlord]

You can't set the music volume to 0 and listen to E.S. Posthumus?

If you have to, mute the game itself. :V