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[Bauglir]

Oh, hey, it's that thing people get called conspiracy theorists for fearing!

[Mictlantecuhtli]

I don't think anyone's ever argued that the UK isn't a step too far in that realm. In fact, they're a beacon of what not to do with your surveillance system.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

England won't be satisfied until they have a robotic Margaret Thatcher with a gun and a camera standing on every street and looming above every toilet. I think they read 1984 and thought it had some pretty great ideas.

[Graknorke]

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Oh the world of yesterday, you were full of so many bright ideas...

Wait. It's saying that we should go for criminals... after we know they've committed a crime? Pfft, that's absurd.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Also the helicopter should be in the air, equipped with an infrared human-tracking camera, and a guy with a rifle.

[Loud Whispers]

Also the helicopter should be in the air, equipped with an infrared human-tracking camera, and a guy with a rifle.

And it needs more drones.

[Helgoland]

I think they read 1984 and thought it had some pretty great ideas.

Hey, I read 1984 and thought it had some good ideas! Mainly about what makes people tick and how to access that bit of them, though.

[Graknorke]

I think they read 1984 and thought it had some pretty great ideas.

Hey, I read 1984 and thought it had some good ideas! Mainly about what makes people tick and how to access that bit of them, though.

I thought it had some good ideas on how to run a political system. And also how even old arthritic men can pull young women by being political dissidents.

[XXSockXX]

GHCQ - 0, Webcam dick pics - 1

Sexually explicit webcam material proved to be a particular problem for GCHQ, as one document delicately put it: "Unfortunately … it would appear that a surprising number of people use webcam conversations to show intimate parts of their body to the other person. Also, the fact that the Yahoo software allows more than one person to view a webcam stream without necessarily sending a reciprocal stream means that it appears sometimes to be used for broadcasting pornography."

Still not as funny as it sounds...

[Frumple]

... the oddest thing about that quote is the use of the word "surprising". The internet has been producing dicks since before it had images. Live video ain't gonna' slow down the nethers train.

Also somewhat troublesome, I think. Folks ostensibly working under a mandate of national security and they apparently don't even know enough about human psych to realize just how sex focused it is? If they can't even figure that out, why the hell do they have the job they do? Their incompetency seems to be hanging out more than some dude's junk on yahoo's webcams.

[GlyphGryph]

Yeah, that seems to be the recurring theme of these leaks.

Not only are we being surveilled, heavily.

Not only is this surveillance used as a weapon.

But the organizations that are handling it are entirely incompetent.

That's the reason the leaks even EXIST. These organizations are FULL of miserable failures, one after the other. If there's any doubt what the natural side effect of the secrecy-based "consequence-free" culture of covert government activity is, it's rampant incompetence.

[Zangi]

... the oddest thing about that quote is the use of the word "surprising". The internet has been producing dicks since before it had images. Live video ain't gonna' slow down the nethers train.

Also somewhat troublesome, I think. Folks ostensibly working under a mandate of national security and they apparently don't even know enough about human psych to realize just how sex focused it is? If they can't even figure that out, why the hell do they have the job they do? Their incompetency seems to be hanging out more than some dude's junk on yahoo's webcams.

I reckon that human psychology... the base mammal urges/kinks sorts are not really touched upon.  The whole topic in itself is probably internally politically ick.  So there is probably very little willpower to find someone who they 'feel ok about' to teach this... or maybe they just havn't found anyone who both 'knows this shit' and are 'competent' by whatever standards to teach it.

[Frumple]

... what? Research into human sexuality and sexual urges have been a heavy feature of psych studies since bloody Freud. It's not particularly poorly researched (in terms of volume, at least, if not always quality) or politically uncomfortable. Anyone with more than like an intro to psych course under their belt (and, frankly, probably even them, and plenty of other people with, say, two functioning eyes) should be aware of how pervasive it is. And that goes doubly or more for anyone that should be behind data collection and processing, especially if they're looking for criminal elements and whatnot. The mistress (of either gender) is often enough where/why folks get caught.

Unless I'm misreading your point, which is possible.

[XXSockXX]

Besides the funny image of a bureaucrat having to look through millions of pointless dick pics, what I get from the article is that big brother is using your own webcam against you, though that was probably clear already.

I wonder what else they tried, asking about terrorists on Chatroulette? "Do you have any information pertaining weapons of...OW, put that away goddamnit!?!" 

[Zangi]

... what? Research into human sexuality and sexual urges have been a heavy feature of psych studies since bloody Freud. It's not particularly poorly researched (in terms of volume, at least, if not always quality) or politically uncomfortable. Anyone with more than like an intro to psych course under their belt (and, frankly, probably even them, and plenty of other people with, say, two functioning eyes) should be aware of how pervasive it is. And that goes doubly or more for anyone that should be behind data collection and processing, especially if they're looking for criminal elements and whatnot. The mistress (of either gender) is often enough where/why folks get caught.

Unless I'm misreading your point, which is possible.

Maybe, not sure.  I'm saying, in a very poorly worded way, the internal politics and policies of the organization may have prevented this stuff from being taught in any meaningful way.  Teaching psychology on human sexuality/urges may just not fit in the 'professional' spy business viewpoint.