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[Dariush]

Dariush:
Rolled less than two minutes before posting.  Does that seem a little quick to anyone else?
Seems as nervous about being on the team as Remutha, but doesn't press the people who would have thrown him on the team rather jumps on Sheep (who filled in for Ranger) who wasn't one of the group that was throwing him on the second team.
...Spy.
Moving on.

Either you're exceptionally drunk, high or all the signs of intelligence you have been displaying so far have merely been a fluke by a brain-dead cretin you're looking like right now.
Yes, I rolled immediatly before posting. Was I supposed to meditate on the results? Think a bit more about their sufficient randomness? Maybe reroll them a couple of times to ensure that the resulting team is sufficiently random?
Yes, I didn't 'jump' on people who said they want to see me on the team. Now how does this matter and how the fuck does this fact coupled with the previous one lead to an offhand verdict of 'spy', thus discarding the absolute entirety of everything else I've done this game and everything you said so far?

[TheWetSheep]

OK, I'm back, and happy to see that there hasn't been too much activity I missed. (And with some more experience of this game from my trip.)

Nerjin: Don't ignore me.

Nerjin:

Throwing caution to the wind is a town play? Stating that voting for a team by everyone on the 'last day'? No. That's not how a townie acts. ESPECIALLY not the power-madness she's gotten.

Why? Can you explain how scum reasoning would lead her to act this way, and town reasoning would not?

Lenglon: Town: I really doubt she'd go through the reads she did if she were a spy (a lot of work with little reward, unless she's playing a better scum game than the last one I was in).

Do you see this as buddying too?

More later.

[Nerjin]

Nerjin:

Throwing caution to the wind is a town play? Stating that voting for a team by everyone on the 'last day'? No. That's not how a townie acts. ESPECIALLY not the power-madness she's gotten.

Why? Can you explain how scum reasoning would lead her to act this way, and town reasoning would not?

"Throwing caution to the wind" is NOT something we want to do at any point. Remember they need three wins to pull off a victory. Mission 4 is basically a sure-thing for rebels. Mission 5 is basically the same thing for the spies. So Mission 3 was pivotal correct? So WHY would a townie throw caution to the wind. A spy could get away with it. After all what're the odds of rebels picking the perfect team for Mission 5? Basically none. So why would a townie throw caution to the wind?

Lenglon: Town: I really doubt she'd go through the reads she did if she were a spy (a lot of work with little reward, unless she's playing a better scum game than the last one I was in).

Do you see this as buddying too?

No. You were saying "Oh she did something that is arguably spytastic. Probably a rebel." trying to get in good with the leader. Day gave more reasons then "Throwing caution to the wind."

Everyone: Please mention your top 3 town picks and your top spy suspect. Please mention why for the suspected spy.

Right now I'm thinking:


Nerjin
Tiriun
GriffDay
Griffpup
Dariush


Thus I think the spy team is:


TheWetSheep
Lenglon
NQT


I'm not gonna lie. I know I'm fallible. I am open to any and all arguments. Even from you sheep. Please Everyone if you have any compelling arguments to make make it now.

[Lenglon]

Nerjin, I'm getting tired of this from you. How hard is it for you to understand that I've known since I got into this game in the first place that the actions of past me would prohibit me from being on the mission 5 team. That means that mission 5 is going to be an auto-fail for us, meaning that succeeding on mission 3 is far, far more important than being popular. the best way to win that is to include every single confirmed townie we have, and there is no better confirmation than your own role PM.

We'd spent a long time talking since mission 2, and trying to be diplomatic would result in similar discussions to what had been said while sheep was leader. there was no point to trying to be nice and dance around the subject. I've very upfront about this, and I fail to see the problem. you're flipping out because I made an unusual play, and calling it scummy because it was unexpected and you've been prejudiced against me since Past Me up and left. Unusual does not mean scummy, and you should know that by now. Unusual means unusual.

Stop this nonsense.
My top 3 town picks:
Myself
GriffDay
Nerjin

top suspected spy:
NQT
Reasons:
Here.
If the propsed team is locked in, I will downvote it. It contains all members of the last failed mission excluding myself, guaranteeing at least one scum.

[Griffionday]

Daruish:

Either you're exceptionally drunk, high or all the signs of intelligence you have been displaying so far have merely been a fluke by a brain-dead cretin you're looking like right now.

Is it safe to assume you're reffering to something other than this game?  Because I really feel like I'm being an idiot of several magnitudes more than you accuse me of in this game.

Yes, I didn't 'jump' on people who said they want to see me on the team. Now how does this matter and how the fuck does this fact coupled with the previous one lead to an offhand verdict of 'spy', thus discarding the absolute entirety of everything else I've done this game and everything you said so far?

I'll be re-reading and looking for what you've been doing in this game, but I can't say I've seen it yet.  Yes it was a dumb case on my part; for which I apologize.  I'll have something more substantial soon enough.

[Griffionday]

And I just realized you probably got your group out before you knew your role proper...  Damn, that was looking a little hopeful.

[notquitethere]

Nerjin

Everyone: Please mention your top 3 town picks and your top spy suspect. Please mention why for the suspected spy.

Top three town picks are:

notquitethere
Tiriun
Dariush

I know I'm a rebel, Tiruin hasn't been on any failed missions downvoted the most scum team and Dariush proposed the only non-failed team and also hasn't been on any failed missions.

Top scum picks are:

Nerjin
Griffpup
Lenglon

Simply because they've all been on both failed missions and it'd be insane to include any of them in the next mission.

[griffinpup]

OK, I've not got much time, but i 'all respond quickly to NQT now, and the rest of you later.

NQT:
You think that every single spy has been on missions 2 and 3 despite having only one sabotage per mission?  You're absolutely brilliant.

Why are those your town picks?

And...  You 'forgot' to respond to my other post as well.

[notquitethere]

Pup
This is getting ridiculous, I'm pretty sure your last question was "Why haven't you answered Tiruin's questions?", which I have now answered. Link me to anything outstanding as I didn't see it.

As it apparently wasn't obvious, I don't think my scum picks are a scum team only that there's a very high chance that there's at least one if not two scum out of the three and to err on the side of caution we shouldn't include any of them in the next mission.

See my earlier reads post for fuller reasoning for the picks.

[griffinpup]

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=126947.msg4408171#msg4408171

[Nerjin]

Well... With such... Non-existant arguments for and against my team I suppose I'll just lock it in now as my internet is sorta being picky.


Nerjin
Tiriun
GriffDay
Griffpup
Dariush


I feel that these players have shown nothing but townie tendencies for the most part with any deviations being forgivable for a variety of circumstances.

I cannot say the same for the remaining players. Dariush is, of course, the weakest pick however I feel that he is a better choice than the remaining three [NQT, Lenglon, and Sheep]

I shall of course be upvoting my team.

@Tiruin: You're next up. Who do you feel you're gonna take onto the team? What if my team fails? Would that change your picks? [By fail I mean you become the leader for Day 4]

[Tiruin]

I will post here. Someday. Later maybe.

Just exams x_x

Still crossmatching my reads. Will post comparison of Remuthra-Lenglon. Will check on TWS.

Then the NQT mishap and logic behind the teams.

And the correct spelling of my name thanks.

[birdy51]

Nerjin has locked in his team!

When you are ready, send in your votes. Voting will end on Friday the 26th at 10PM EST!

[Griffionday]

Really sorry everyone, it was an surprisingly busy past few days.

Nerjin... I'm not sure I like your team; I'll give specific thought to whether there are possibly more than one spy on it before voting though.

As for when: I'm leaving for another long day of work now, so it wont be for at least nine hours.  This will take top priority when I get home.

[TheWetSheep]

Wow, low activity. I guess that's partly my fault, since I haven't posted either.

Nerjin:

Nerjin:

Throwing caution to the wind is a town play? Stating that voting for a team by everyone on the 'last day'? No. That's not how a townie acts. ESPECIALLY not the power-madness she's gotten.

Why? Can you explain how scum reasoning would lead her to act this way, and town reasoning would not?

"Throwing caution to the wind" is NOT something we want to do at any point. Remember they need three wins to pull off a victory. Mission 4 is basically a sure-thing for rebels. Mission 5 is basically the same thing for the spies. So Mission 3 was pivotal correct? So WHY would a townie throw caution to the wind. A spy could get away with it. After all what're the odds of rebels picking the perfect team for Mission 5? Basically none. So why would a townie throw caution to the wind?

What I meant was that she threw caution to the wind with her own reputation. She still deliberated a huge amount with the other people she was putting on the team. But do you disagree with her logic that, as a rebel, she needed to be on the team?

I feel that these players have shown nothing but townie tendencies for the most part with any deviations being forgivable for a variety of circumstances.I cannot say the same for the remaining players. Dariush is, of course, the weakest pick however I feel that he is a better choice than the remaining three [NQT, Lenglon, and Sheep]

So. You, the person who was imploring me to give full, detailed explanations on every one of my picks because I was team leader, give the same explanation for every one of your five picks. An explanation that boils down to "they look townie".