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[Nerjin]

Reque- Wait a second... I like this game... Nah. Anyway stupid joke aside: I'm busy with America Day things for the next couple days so don't expect any super-observations.

Mod: How are the people requesting replacements handled for being on teams/voting?

[birdy51]

Mod: How are the people requesting replacements handled for being on teams/voting?

To tell you the truth, I am not certain how it should be handled. Two votes is a lot in a game like this, nor can I simply cut two player positions to compensate like in the first game.

It's one of the reason I haven't said anything about TheWetSheep deciding a team. I'm still hoping for some replacements, but I am going to do what I can to keep the game going in the meantime.

[Nerjin]

Well I'm not sure about the vote section of it but maybe for sabotage the spy team can say "This guy sabotage's. I lay low." or some other such thing. It's either that or flipping coins and that doesn't seem fair.

[TheWetSheep]

Tiruin:

If you'd pick Remuthra on the team, I will have to downvote it on the leisure of a doubt. He isn't participating.

At all. 

I'm definitely not putting Remuthra on the team. Why do you think I would?

2. Why would it implicate Dariush?

Because Remuthra tried to get Dariush onto the team instead of him.

First: Did you see the reasons he's given? Why aren't you poking that?

Because he won't respond to me if I do.

Or are you following up a total blank which didn't even expound anything but throw out an assumption?

I don't understand.

Second: Looking less likely how?

The mission only had one fail, so it's unlikely that there were two spies on it unless they communicated, and I haven't seen any of that. Unless...

Griffinpup: It wasn't a threat. I just wanted to have the information to make my pick better. Why would you withhold information from the town?

Birdy: Should I pick a team, or would it be better to wait until we have a full roster?

[Tiruin]

I'm definitely not putting Remuthra on the team. Why do you think I would?

You never said a definitive on that.

2. Why would it implicate Dariush?

Because Remuthra tried to get Dariush onto the team instead of him.

Here we go again with the total evasion. Let's just give the idea without why it would implicate the person, shall we?

Where did he explicitly do this?

First: Did you see the reasons he's given? Why aren't you poking that?

Because he won't respond to me if I do.

"If."

"Won't." > Will Not.

Future tense + possibility = good reasoning on why?

I beg to disagree.

Or are you following up a total blank which didn't even expound anything but throw out an assumption?

I don't understand.

Are you reading or are you just leaving your own confusion in the trail without expounding on what you don't understand, hm?

Second: Looking less likely how?

The mission only had one fail, so it's unlikely that there were two spies on it unless they communicated, and I haven't seen any of that. Unless...

The ellipsis denotes intentional omission.

Why are you omitting things, or making them into a run-on?

The following questions after that aren't even adding to whatever speculation I can derive from that Unless... there.

[birdy51]

Birdy: Should I pick a team, or would it be better to wait until we have a full roster?

I would prefer you wait, at least until Monday.

Tonight and over the weekend, I am going to attempt to take a more direct approach try to reach out to players in the community. If I don't get the players I need by Monday, then you may proceed with locking in a vote.

[griffinpup]

Griffinpup: It wasn't a threat. I just wanted to have the information to make my pick better. Why would you withhold information from the town?

Again, answering that question kinda defeats the purpose of withholding the information in the first place.  I have made a decision to present my case today or tomorrow, however, so you won't have to wait long.  Also, not telling you information isn't withholding it from the town.

[Tiruin]

Griffinpup: It wasn't a threat. I just wanted to have the information to make my pick better. Why would you withhold information from the town?

Again, answering that question kinda defeats the purpose of withholding the information in the first place.  I have made a decision to present my case today or tomorrow, however, so you won't have to wait long.  Also, not telling you information isn't withholding it from the town.

What if I say I'm interested in knowing it?

[griffinpup]

Griffinpup: It wasn't a threat. I just wanted to have the information to make my pick better. Why would you withhold information from the town?

Again, answering that question kinda defeats the purpose of withholding the information in the first place.  I have made a decision to present my case today or tomorrow, however, so you won't have to wait long.  Also, not telling you information isn't withholding it from the town.

What if I say I'm interested in knowing it?

I'd probably say bug off?  Purely hypothetically, of course.

[Lenglon]

Birdy: Should I pick a team, or would it be better to wait until we have a full roster?

I would prefer you wait, at least until Monday.

Tonight and over the weekend, I am going to attempt to take a more direct approach try to reach out to players in the community. If I don't get the players I need by Monday, then you may proceed with locking in a vote.

...
*sigh*
I don't really feel up for it, but I can read the thread title and I get the dilemma you're in.
Haven't done a read of the thread yet, but you want a replacement?

[birdy51]

Birdy: Should I pick a team, or would it be better to wait until we have a full roster?

I would prefer you wait, at least until Monday.

Tonight and over the weekend, I am going to attempt to take a more direct approach try to reach out to players in the community. If I don't get the players I need by Monday, then you may proceed with locking in a vote.

...
*sigh*
I don't really feel up for it, but I can read the thread title and I get the dilemma you're in.
Haven't done a read of the thread yet, but you want a replacement?

I am always up for a replacement player! I only have two requests. The first is that you post. That is important. The second is that you enjoy yourself while playing! If you manage that, then I will have succeeded as a Mod and you as a player.

You'll be replacing Remuthra, and I will show this in the OP.

Thank you for this Lenglon! A PM will be coming shortly.

[griffinpup]

Lenglon:
How will being confirmed scum change your play?
Why did you react so strangely to being on a losing mission?
Why did you throw around WIFOM as if it would automatically save you, but never explain why?
And all the other question I've asked you over the game.

[Lenglon]

Lenglon:
How will being confirmed scum change your play?

well, clearly your confirmation process sucks, because I got my role PM and I'm not scum.

Why did you react so strangely to being on a losing mission?

because I have a split personality, and the previously dominant one was strange?

Why did you throw around WIFOM as if it would automatically save you, but never explain why?

same answer

And all the other question I've asked you over the game.

Haven't read the thread yet, will answer them (and the ones you asked me above) once I have. I've never talked with my previous personality though, so I don't really understand how Past Me thinks, and any explanations of how Past Me acted is going to be pure speculation.

[griffinpup]

OK.  Past you acted really scummy, all the time.  I'd go so far and say he is scum.  Since you have the same role, that means you're scum.  Since you can't explain the actions of past you in any meaningful way, and in fact decided to not answer my questions with anything but a deflection, it appears that you won't attempt to clear past you's name.  Which means that my read on him is scum and ergo, you are too.

[Lenglon]

ok, skimmed the thread, still low on detail though, I don't have an emotional read on anyone yet, nor an evaluation of how anyone thinks. I'll try to get a bit farther with that tomorrow, but I have to sleep soon.

GriffPup: what part of "I haven't read the thread so I can't answer your question yet, but I will once I have." is a deflection?

now then, to explain past Me's actions:

Week 1 Team: NQT, Griffpup, Nerjin -> Success.
Week 2 Team: NQT, Griffpup, Nerjin, Past Me -> Fail.

if you make the foolish assumption that spies will sabotage every mission they're on, then this sequence of events marks past me as a spy. that assumption is wrong, but apparently when past me saw this happen, rather than actually try to handle it, she simply freaked out and gave up.

I would like to point out that such a reaction is actually a mark of town. if you assume that Past Me is a spy, then past me chose to sabotage the mission, singleing herself out for suspicion, and then broke down and fell apart under the lightest of pressure. If past me was a spy, then somehow Past Me was unprepared for suspicion, despite actively choosing to draw it to herself. a true spy would either have a defense ready or have not sabotaged the mission at all.

I only see how WIFOM comes peripherally into play in this situation. the only WIFOM involved was for the spy on the first team who chose to not sabotage the mission on week 1. even then, it doesn't apply very well.

Sheep: Like I said, I've only skimmed the thread, so you might have already answered this, but why did you vote down the team that failed week 2?

GriffPup: why did you vote up a team containing NQT and yourself when NQT was on the team that was sabotaged?

NQT: why did you vote up a team containing GriffPup and yourself when GriffPup was on the team that was sabotaged?

Tiruin: why did you downvote the first two teams, but upvote a team containing both NQT and GriffPup when they were both on the team that was sabotaged?