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Author Topic: Marooned in Morrowind (FINISHED)  (Read 435365 times)

LordSlowpoke

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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.59
« Reply #1980 on: May 05, 2014, 03:09:43 am »

if none of you have noticed bucketkins is smacking us over the head with the pony idea

because the longer you're going to think it's real the bigger the chance is of forcing it to be real (you know, our mild chim?)

but then not a big surprise if someone planned that one out
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.59
« Reply #1981 on: May 05, 2014, 09:04:00 am »

I have been suggesting that its Michael affecting the world trough a short of CHIM but there is also the possibility that this is all illusions.

I find it interesting that the more we believed it to be the mane six the more strongly they became so, Applejack is nearly caricature while our earlier encounters are more unclear. Tough this may be due to writer frustration (I wonder, since we can communicate with Michael, maybe the writer is also an active part, so to speak?).

Of course, this may still be the CHIM effect, but I think it being illusions from a third partner explains some things. Well, I think its likely illusions what with the tentacle thing.

Whats more, its possible that these are illusions by somebody who do not know what they are making illusions of. That is, this is a form of illusion spell that lets the person under spell subconsciously fit in the details of what they see and perhaps partly what they hear too. So whatever behind the illusion does not really know what the hell Applejack is and thus is surprised by the name and thus also ask us to elaborate and vocalize what we are thinking. They can obfuscate the looks and manner of speech but they don't have the knowledge said entity should have. It may also explain how you feel hunger without hunger existing in the world since the spells lets you fit in the necessary details yourself.

Obviously we got someone with an interest in you who really wants you to eat the apple for whatever reason. What that reason is we don't know. It may be a trap, it may be a way to contact you secretly, it may be something else entirely. We don't know who the entity is, tough the tentacle thing does hint towards ascended sleepers (and Dagoth Ur have been know to play around with dreams, what this might be), and thus we don't know if the apple is for good or ill.

I am interested in eating the apple simply to see what happens, its likely that something interesting and informative may happen unless its simply death. Curiousity killed the cat, eh? Examine the apple with your magic eye. Show it to someone else. Possibly eat it, if they wanted to kill you or capture you they where close enough to do it before anyway.

Amusingly, this situation is also possibly a short of a biblical parallel Adam (a man, Michael) gets an apple (a woman, Applejack) that bestow knowledge of life and death/god and evil (for the curious).
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.59
« Reply #1982 on: May 05, 2014, 10:50:04 am »

Perhaps our wording should be along the lines of "Say, does this apple look okay to you?"

I think that out of every episode so far, this one is my second favorite. I look forward to the MST3K of it.

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Are there already MST3K's of this?
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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.59
« Reply #1983 on: May 05, 2014, 11:06:15 am »

I think someone said what that was once, but I've forgotten. Some sort of skit or something, I think.

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Re: Marooned in Morrowind, a suggestion game Ep.59
« Reply #1984 on: May 05, 2014, 01:01:56 pm »

I strongly advise against ever eating it, for all we know its some kind of larva that will pull an alien on us and burst out of our chest eventually.
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« Reply #1985 on: May 05, 2014, 01:07:26 pm »

I strongly advise against ever eating it, for all we know its some kind of larva that will pull an alien on us and burst out of our chest eventually.

Welp, I changed my mind. Eat the apple.
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« Reply #1986 on: May 05, 2014, 03:05:36 pm »


Whats more, its possible that these are illusions by somebody who do not know what they are making illusions of. That is, this is a form of illusion spell that lets the person under spell subconsciously fit in the details of what they see and perhaps partly what they hear too. So whatever behind the illusion does not really know what the hell Applejack is and thus is surprised by the name and thus also ask us to elaborate and vocalize what we are thinking. They can obfuscate the looks and manner of speech but they don't have the knowledge said entity should have. It may also explain how you feel hunger without hunger existing in the world since the spells lets you fit in the necessary details yourself.
This so much!

Do not eat that apple! For all you know it's squid testicles! Snap out of it!

I want to see what would happen if he eats the apple, but it's likely to end in tentacle porn...

So Michael, for my sake, eat the dam apple, but for your own sake(and various orifices'), don't.


On a side-note I would really like you to answer this: Is there any possibility that the PC's are actually characters you played in Morrowind? Do you remember any of your characters you played? If so, detail one of them for me


Eat the apple, I want to see what happens... You know you want to
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« Reply #1987 on: May 05, 2014, 03:06:07 pm »

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GUYS I THINK LORDBUCKET IS TRYING TO TELL US SOMETHING

WHAT COULD IT MEAN

Also, eat yerself a dang apple. Be stupid for the sake of satisfying our curiosity.

Better idea:

Michael: here's what we some of us think is up. Hermaeus Mora is probably trying to lure you into his schemes, possibly while avoiding payback from other Daedric Princes. He'll almost certainly know what's happening, but it's a big risk to go along with it.

On the other hand, heroes (by the 'undefined fate' definition, not the 'badass adventurer guy' definition) regularly deal with Princes and walk out of it intact, if not unscathed. There's a chance what he wants from you is less soul-destroying than we might expect.

In addition, that was clearly neither Applejack nor a character controlled by her. None of the PCs are humanized ponies; they just bear traits of the main characters (and Luna). It's technically not necessary that AJ is even playing. I mean, she's the hard worker; it'd make sense that she'd pass up video games entirely. Just something to think about. It doesn't mean the theory is wrong, but it sure as hell doesn't support it.

My vote as to what you do is this: if you think it's worth taking the risk in exchange for knowledge, eat the apple. If you don't think it's worth it, don't eat the apple. Your fate is in your own hands. Just be careful if you decide to do it, because Hermaeus will probably view that as an agreement to whatever terms he's set that we don't know about.
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« Reply #1988 on: May 05, 2014, 03:26:27 pm »

I have a strong feeling that we'll wind up eating it sooner or later. I just don't want us to do it immediately. We ought to at least look around this "farmhouse."
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« Reply #1989 on: May 05, 2014, 04:27:09 pm »

Guys, you know what's the WORST thing that could happen when eating the apple? Nothing apparent. We'll forever be wondering, when reading every new episode, if anything going on could be the consequence of us eating that apple, back in the days.
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« Reply #1990 on: May 05, 2014, 04:29:47 pm »

FYI Vivec sermon 3 that LB mentions is where Vivec sneaks a CHIM in, conjures daedric longswords etc. He also mentions our good grace at meeting our higher self. Did he mean us, the forumites, or Vivec? 'I thought you only saw one sword' and swords talking to each other, the pooling of divines making strength. Maybe the more strongly we agree on a course of action the more successful the outcome.
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« Reply #1991 on: May 05, 2014, 04:52:35 pm »

Maybe the more strongly we agree on a course of action the more successful the outcome.

THAT is an interesting idea. Now we just need to all actually agree on something. :P
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« Reply #1992 on: May 05, 2014, 04:55:31 pm »

Maybe the more strongly we agree on a course of action the more successful the outcome.

THAT is an interesting idea. Now we just need to all actually agree on something. :P

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« Reply #1993 on: May 05, 2014, 04:59:29 pm »

I have a strong feeling that we'll wind up eating it sooner or later.
Or we could toss it into room full of Telvani magelords. We would need fast way out of Vvardenfell after that one, what with the "for the most curious" and all...
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« Reply #1994 on: May 05, 2014, 07:04:13 pm »

Are there already MST3K's of this?

I've written them for about 16 chapters, but none are published because they contain spoilers. "Author commentary" would be a more accurate name for them than MST3K. Basically it's just me explaining all the subtle references and symbolism, pointing out references and shoutouts, explanation for "what was really going," the occasional logical inconsistency, my hopes and expectations for the game, etc.
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