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[GlyphGryph]

Clover is a member of the mages guild, right?

I think it's about time we try to make clear to the people here that were are looking for her and trying to save her life.

We don't have time for this if we're actually going to succeed at intercepting her - hell, we are probably too late. Our only real chance of arriving in time to save her is if the people here in the mages guild actually help us, so do everything we can to convince them to aid us in our journey, whether it involves giving us stuff or discounts or just letting us pay back the difference later.

If nothing else, find out if anyone here in the mages guild has a better idea than we can clearly come up with about how to get where we are going.

We need to stop treating our fellow mages like shopkeepers and start treating them like peers and associates. Maybe, hopefully, at least one of them likes Clover and might be willing to stick their neck out for us.

[IronyOwl]

We need to stop treating our fellow mages like shopkeepers and start treating them like peers and associates. Maybe, hopefully, at least one of them likes Clover and might be willing to stick their neck out for us.

Maybe, but remember that we don't know them that well, we're not very useful, and our story sounds crazy. Also Clover likely has been treating them like shopkeepers, so they might not be the best of friends with her either.

Plus, in theory we have access to everything we need- levitation and water walking potions. Other than letting us know if Clover's been through this way or giving us the aforementioned for free/a discount, I'm not sure how they're going to help us. Most are probably "on duty" and thus can't wander off with us even if they were inclined to.


As an aside for the moment, I am in favor of trying to build actual, functional relationships with somebody at some point in the future. At the moment that legion battlemage and Caius are the only people we've interacted with in more than a passing manner. Well, plus some Legionnaires.


EDIT: Oh, that reminds me.

I believe Michael at one point mentioned that it made sense that someone couldn't see his statsheet, since he couldn't either. But we can, which implies that we have more precise information than Michael does about things he should have at least an intuitive grasp on.

This doesn't seem immediately useful, but it does sound significant and I wanted to mention it before I forgot about it again.

[WillowLuman]

Actually, asking people at the Mage's guild if she's come this way is a good idea, and we should have done it sooner.

In complete honesty, say that her life is at risk, and if necessary, say that it's a matter of national security. Both are entirely true.

[GlyphGryph]

Another good point - people know we are a legionairre. Can we use that? Say not only is Clover in danger but we have orders from the legion (kind of) to save her? We even know some legion authority figures who might be willing to cover for us since they know we are now working for the blades, if we absolutely need to name drop. Its NOT just the mages guild we might be able to get help from - didn't people say there was an Imperial Fort just outside of town as well?

Its a long trip, and I dont think some potions and scrolls will see us through.

We need to build a rescue party.

If the mages guild doesnt provide enough help, see if we can get any from the legion. Try to remember anything useful we might know or have that might make either event more likely.

[WillowLuman]

We arrived in said fort: it's where the Guild Hall is.

[GlyphGryph]

Well that part makes that easy then.

[WillowLuman]

All we need is a little roboat, or a dingy, or anything that floats really. Surely a fort built right on the waterfront must have some kind of boats.

[Parcae]

Our problem isn't getting to our destination, it's surviving the journey. Anybody have any ideas for killing cliff racers?

*crickets*

[WillowLuman]

Boat keeps us out of the slaughterfish. Ideally we could take a guard along, but taking slaughterfish out of the equation really helps.

[Xanmyral]

I'm not seeing Michael as the kind of guy who knows how to properly man a boat. I'm more seeing winding up not knowing what the heck he's doing and being at the mercy of waves.

[WillowLuman]

I know how.

If it's a rowboat (2 oars), you hold an oar in each hand and pump your arms, moving the boat forward on the push and preparing the next stroke on the pull (forward facing rowing.) To turn, row only the oar on the side you wish to turn towards. You sit facing forward, if you're doing this on your own.

It it's a paddleboat (1 paddle), you literally pull the boat through the water using broom-like motions with the paddle, alternating sides of the boat. To turn, paddle repeatedly on one side. You should be in a kneeling position.

You can also push off the bottom with a long pole, but that's best done from a standing position, which requires practice on the water, and it's probably too deep here.

Michael, can you hear these boating instructions?

[joemoben]

Alright, I have no idea what we should do in this situation, so instead I'm going to offer advice for once we get back to Balmora. This is all stuff that we should tell Caius about the future of the empire, and how he can improve it. He is probably going to disbelieve what we say, or at the very least take it with a grain of salt. All the same, he should be informed of these things at some point. I'm gonna toss it into a spoiler because it might get a little long winded. Also, while writing this, I am going to go with allowing the general main plot of the games to happen, but lessening any death or suffering that would come with it.

Warning: Massive amounts of lore on the Oblivion crisis in this spoiler.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

In 3E 433, The emperor will be murdered by a group known as the Mystic Dawn, who will also murder all three of his sons. Soon afterward due to the dragonfires being put out gates to the Deadlands will begin opening up all over Tamriel, spewing forth daedra. One of the most notable locations where A gate will open will be right next to Kvatch. The defense of Kvatch will be utmost, as within there will be Uriels bastard child, Martin. Martin will be a priest of Akatosh in the temple in Kvatch. It is of utmost importance to save Martin, as he is key to the defeat of the Mystic Dawn. The Mystic Dawns main goal will be the summoning of Mehrunes Dagon to Tamriel. While this is all happening here, the city of Ald'ruhn will also be attacked with an invasion of daedra. The Crystal Tower on Summerset Isle will also be the focus point of an major invasion. Now, at some point during all of this, someone will approach Jauffre, with the amulet of kings. This person will be incredibly important to the war against the daedra, as he will essentially be a very powerful force against the daedra, as he is more than capable of entering the daedric gates, and disabling them via the removal of a sigil stone within, which will appear to be a rolling ball of fire. My suggestion is to provide the hero with all the resources of the blades. Fort Sutch will also be struck by an attack from one of these gates. In Bruma, Saveri Faram and Jearl will both be spies for the Mythic Dawn who will be spying on Cloud Ruler Temple. Soon afterward, gates outside of most major towns of Tamriel will open none of these gates will have any real force coming out besides the one outside of Bruma. Soon after this, a massive gate will appear outside of Bruma that will destroy Bruma unless destroyed itself, via the taking of a Great Sigil Stone from within. Around this time, the dragonstone will be taken by the mythic dawn. The Hero I mentioned will retrieve it from a realm of the leader of the Mythic Dawns creation. Martin will then take it to the dragonfires, while Dagon mounts a massive assault on the Imperial City. Dagons avatar will appear, but Martin will be able to transform into an avatar of Akatosh to banish him back to Oblivion.
My suggestions for defeating the enemies would be a much larger detachment than normal be directed to Kvatch early in 433 for defense. Also, as the imperial legion will likely withdraw from Morrowind to better defend Cyrodil, the Empire will earn the ire of most of the dunmer people. I would suggest a massive recruiting campaign starting very soon to help counter this, and all the other effects of the oblivion crisis. I suggest that all knowledge of Martin be kept solely to top government officials and the Blades, as he is integral to the survival of Tamriel. To be honest I would just suggest a massive amount of recruitment. I would also suggest staying away from conscription as that may simply upset the people more than they already would be.

Any additional corrections or info here would be greatly appreciated. Also, we could simply offer a few names of people that would need to be assassinated for this to never happen, but I'm not entirely sure that wouldn't cause some kind of quantum screw up that would explode the universe or something.
Also, I apologize to anyone who is willing to read the above wall of text.
Edit: I would also suggest to Caius that he gets out some paper to write on.
Edit2: So no giving specific names for killing,but still allowing for additional defenses to be put in place may work.
Edit3: So I'm now going to go with referring to the mythic dawn as a cult, as that would decrease the likely-hood of Mankar being taken out before the hero gets rid of him. Possibly not even refer to Dagon as Dagon, merely as a Daedric Lord to reduce the chances of the blades learning about who will perpetrate the crisis beforehand.

[Putnam]

The Oblivion Crisis needs to happen.

Wulf (I.E Talos himself) thinks so and without the crisis, the Champion of Cyrodiil will probably never get out of prison, leading to him/her never defeating Umaril and never becoming Sheogorath.

Plus, preventing the Mythic Dawn and Camoran from doing it just means something likely bloodier. Remember, Camoran used the Mysterium Xarxes to create his own pocket realm in Oblivion, which is powerful enough for him to count as one of the AE people go to when they die. He is also well aware of CHIM and hopes to achieve it. If the Oblivion Crisis doesn't happen, something much worse likely would.

[joemoben]

Alright so disregard the comment about just finishing the crisis before it begins then. Just the spoiler matters in that case.

[WillowLuman]

We could still warn that it will happen, and that nothing can prevent it, but some things could be alleviated.