From my interpretation, these points aren't saying the same thing, and some don't seem to support your case. The first is a reason for voting Vector. Ok. But that doesn't really have much to do with the points you make. How does it show that Leafsnail's actions were scummy while his case was not?
The other two present reasons for you to have pressed Leafsnail and expressed your suspicions day 2. You didn't, and that is a big part of Leafsnail's case on you. The evidence you are trying to use against his arguments is shooting yourself in the foot here. Can you point to any post of yours where you said that you think Leafsnail is tunneling or trying to speed lynch Vector during day 2?
no, I cannot. I did not weigh in on the subject in any way, for or against Leafsnail, at the time. the subject never came up, and Day covered it in far more detail than I felt was necessary. Since Leaf wasn't one of the day's lynch targets, I didn't bother to say anything on the matter.
Also, his total reluctance to say anything at all about you, yay or nay, despite how he repeatedly listed you as Vector's scumbuddy yesterday, seems off to me. I'm not decided on what exactly it means regarding if you're his scumbuddy or not, although I do think it's additional evidence that he's scum.
I too wait for him to reply to me. But if you go with the presented logic, you can effectively make me into everyone's scumbuddy.
Considering that, as I said when I presented it, the logic is very flawed, this is not surprising to me. why did you crop out the section where I mentioned the entire thing was nothing but WIFOM fuel?
yes it is, but that isn't part of my case. you calling me scum and yet refusing to vote me until I called you on it IS part of my case. It's a sign that you were so focused on looking like town that you forgot how scumhunting works.
I really do not understand what you mean by "so focused on looking like town that you forgot how scumhunting works". Also you backed away from this statement after nightcrafter pushed you on it so nevermind.
the hell? nightcrafter never pushed me on this you moron. It remains part of my case. you have been consistently so focused on defense that you haven't been bothering to hunt for scum. This has been demonstrated over and over throughout today and yesterday. I've pointed out many instances of you doing this and you have yet to respond to them to my satisfaction. the quoted instance is simply one example of this.
You really should have thought that one through better, but I'm willing to buy that you didn't understand what I was saying back then.
I fully understood what you were saying back then. You're just attempting to retroactively change what you said (funnily enough, to something you now agree is scummy), and I think that should be obvious to all other players.
Since when has "One of these two is scum, but not both"
not implied "If I can prove one of these is town, the other is scum"? you've been reading all kinds of random implied messages into my statements everywhere else, and yet you couldn't figure out this pretty damn basic one? That isn't even remotely plausible.
No, No I could not. "useless" in this context means not scumhunting. Even with limited time Ford could have done far more than he did. yet he was unable to answer even the simplest of questions.
His play seems to me to be entirely indicative of a lack of time, and the onus is on you to show otherwise.
fair point, and I don't have anything new to mention on the subject, dropping.
What the fuck is this? If I made a case that you agreed with and apparently still think was valid how can you say I wasn't scumhunting? What is your definition of scumhunting if forming a valid case on somebody isn't it? Why did you not vote me yesterday for doing this, if it was something I did? You are contradicting yourself directly here.
why didn't I vote you? because although you were using your case wrongly, the case itself was pretty good. I didn't have anything new to add to the conversation and I wasn't ready to lynch vote. Vector failed to respond to your accusations so I ended up pressure voting her, which changed to a lynch vote when I wasn't satisfied with her answers. It's really not that complicated.
I've already explained that I lost a post earlier in the day, which is why I didn't post for a while. I missed a grand total of one question, too.
Yeah, I'm SURE you lost a post before my vote on you. It totally wasn't an OMGUS reaction when you voted me... using nothing but the fact that how DARE I vote you after voting for vector yesterday for why you're voting me. Riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight. Lying Scumbag.
Except you never said this yesterday (incidentally speedlynches are impossible in a non-hammer game, so that accusation is total nonsense). Making it obvious that you are chainlynching. Which you've now agreed is scummy. So thanks for agreeing you're scum, I guess.
I never said anything on the subject yesterday... at all. neither for it nor against it. Why? because nobody asked, and you weren't up for lynch. If you want to call me a liar, please, link me to the lie.
secondly, all I said was that I was willing to drop my reasoning that was based on If Vector is Town, then Leafsnail is scum. I'm really sick of you trying to shove words into my mouth.
It's hilarious how badly you're misrepresenting the three points I made against you. You said that Vector wasn't you favourite target
when did I say that? link please. right now you're just crazy, panicked, doomed scum.
and that you were only comparing her to TWS as the least bad of two bad options.
nope. never said that was the least bad of two bad options. there was a completely horrible one, and a decent, but not great, one. the decision between the two of them was easy.
I pointed out that everything in the post you made seemed to imply that Vector was your favourite target. In other words, that you are lying.
Vector was my preferred lynch choice, just above you. I fail to see the problem.
ok, working off the assumption that Nightcrafter is simply being framed by Leaf, which is what I think is happening from the way Leaf refused to say anything at all on the matter, I have a problem. I just eliminated all possibilities for who his scumbuddy could be. Sheep is town, Day Vs Leaf from yesterday pretty clearly shows they aren't scumbuddies, and Leaf went out of his way to frame Nightcrafter as scum, which means he's town.
one of those assumptions has to be wrong, so...
Day: Do you think Nightcrafter is being framed by Leaf? why or why not?
Nightcrafter: Could you please re-summarize why Sheep is scum for me?
Sheep: How likely do you think it is that the argument between Day and Leaf from yesterday was faked?