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[3_14159]

Now, here'd be the ground attack plane proposal. As always, comments and suggestions are appreciated:

Meteor Ground Attack Plane
Construct a dedicated ground attack plane using the V12 aviation engine. Armour the engine and pilot cabin against small-arms fire. Concentrate on performance near the ground, and provide mounting points for bombs, rockets and gun pods. The Meteor should mount twin GVS-14.

I'm hoping to get a better-armoured ground attack plane with speed a bit less compared to the new fighter craft. Alternatively, a variant of the fighter plane might be considered.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Proposal J: Request that four more armour factories to be built, two light, two heavy. Not only would this boost our armour production to meet the demands of the army, in the event one factory gets bombed our production capability won't be completely crippled.

Do you mean chassis factories? Or entire complexes?

3_14159
I am planning to propose a proper dive bomber, maybe with RAM's 40mm gun idea

[3_14159]

@UR: I'm not sure how a dive bomber compares with a regular attack plane, except that bombs are easier to aim. It's this what I'm trying to correct by using rockets. Can you give me more infos?

@Kahn:
What, exactly, is the advantage of the 94mm AA gun? The heavy AA role to defend our cities is, as far as I see this, already filled by the 80mm AA gun we've got. Why design a new one and split production?

At the Howitzer; why not use an 80mm calibre?

And, lastly, I fear that proposal M isn't really possible.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

3_14159, one thing dive bombers better at = avoiding enemy ground fire, they fly high, dive to attack and than climb back, thus they are far less exposed to enemy ground fire

Plus speed of the dive adds to the speed of the gun

[tryrar]

Hmm, UR, Shark sounds good, though I'd like to keep our air/storm theme going for planes(DR-1 Backdraft would be my name pick). Also, I AM a bit worried even a single v12 won't really have enough power to bring aloft a HVG-40. Though, even with those concerns you have my vote

Also, keeping the theme, I'd like to name the new 80mm the HVG-80

[Taricus]

Entire complexes Ukrainian. We will need them.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Taricus, Yep, it would be nice, but.... What makes you think that our government can double our countrywide production facilities in one turn by building 5 more complexes?

tryrar It just doesn't made for strafing runs or dogfights, that's why i limited it to one HMG as auxiliary weapon... Besides I want wings to be free for bomb mountings

Just noticed, someone should really do something about that flaw in our submarine. It makes us easier to detect via sonar.

10% is so minor that can be ignored safely

[tryrar]

Assuming our enemies even HAVE sonar, which given that we haven't used any subs, I'd place good odds on them not having it yet(though that WILL change when we start sinking ships with our new sub force)

[3_14159]

Hm... I guess I thought that a level ground attack plane would be less vulnerable to higher-calibre (14-20mm) AA guns, with armour able to protect from small arms fire. If that's not the case, I'm game.

For the submarines: While 10% is by no means that small, it would require the enemy to first develop equipment and tactics for ASW (anti-sub warfare). I believe that in light of the war we can wait for another two or three turns with that.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Tryrar, I renumbered my dive bomber to 10, due to accidental reusing of the numbers, fix your vote, please

I am really tempted to vote for 120mm howitzer, something I'd like to have... But I have only two votes left so will keep them in case something more interesting will come

[tryrar]

Ram, what weight class are you wanting that surface ship?

[RAM]

Cruiser I suppose. Weight wise I will let the engineers sort it out, but it is meant to be a surface-ship hunter.

[tryrar]

Hmm, I'd go for a refit of the Glorious myself. Here's how I'd do it:


)Glorious refit. Remove the steam turbines and replace with 8 of the new maritime engines(4 per screw). This should free up vast space for armament overhaul. First, remove all turrets, and replace the 8 original 40mms with 4 twin HVG-40 open turrets for AA, and adding 4 Hydra turrets to supplement the HVG-40s. Adapt the HVG-80 to naval use and mount that in 4 open mount turrets. Add 2 twin 160mm turrets, and two single 320mm turrets. If the tech allows, add a radar installation.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Tryrar, way too many guns too fit I think,
You are doubling the weight of main guns, going from four single 160mm guns to, 2 twin 160mm guns and 2 320mm guns....

I'd do the following

1) Upgrade the engines
2) Get rid of 80mm guns alltogether or leave, at most, two new 80mm guns. Of cause get rid of mines too
3) Add a bunch of AA weaponery, Hydra turrets, more HVG-40s, HVS-14
4)leave two of original 160mm turrets, and replace two other original turrets with new 320mm guns ( that will make remaking easier and not stress the weight)
5) Add sonar, and if compact is voted - radar

Then I'll vote

[tryrar]

Actually, I did the math. For 1200 tons of displacement, at 5kw a ton the steam turbines currently output 6000kw. Each new diesel for maritime use is 1200kw, and 8 of those is 9600 kw. However, 8 of the new diesels is only 2 tons and displace 20 tons(for a total of 160 tons displacement), so that means the new engines put out more power for little over 1/10th the displacement. We very much have room for those extra guns