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Neonivek

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Did your school have Cliques?
« on: April 28, 2013, 02:40:24 am »

Ok in my whole life I have seen on EVERY SINGLE school drama in movies, tv shows, but oddly enough not books (well mostly)... Are school clicks.

"Ohh these are the popular kids, and the jocks, and the artists, and the blaw!"

Heck for some shows the high school aristocracy or click division is a major part of the conflict (Recess, Highschool musical, All Grown Up).

But I have never EVER seen it. To the extent where it was just so surreal and unrealistic for me to see it. Yet I have also never met anyone who went to a school with clicks.

I certainly have talked to people who went to school with "Jocks" but that is less a "Click school" and more of a school where a bunch of the sports team are jerks.

Has anyone EVER been to a school like they depict on television or movies? I must know! I will go crazy if I do not find this out!

If it is an untrue cliché my only guess is that it is not meant to represent what highschool was actually like but how many people feel like how it was like. The "Popular kids" never hung out together because they were the popular kids but because they were friends (As Told By Ginger was oddly balanced in how they handled it. Cortney was the most popular kid in school but she never tried to be popular and she was a genuinely nice girl if a bit conceited.) and thus the people who felt alone in highschool (the writers) may have saw this vision of the school that was only true from their angle.

I mean when I think about the most "popular" kids in my highschool. They were always the nicest and most kind people. Not this "Rich brat who everyone hates but wants to go to their parties"... it isn't that we didn't have rich kids in highschool and elementary, as I found out we did... It is just that it didn't matter.
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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #1 on: April 28, 2013, 02:47:08 am »

[The brash]
[The keen]
[The ups]
[The vidyas]
[The nerds]
[The gammas]

With lots of overlap and mixing.

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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #2 on: April 28, 2013, 02:47:57 am »

Now were these just groups with hostility between them? or were these just names for people who hung out together?
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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #3 on: April 28, 2013, 02:48:44 am »

Where I went, you had your groups but people tended to mix pretty easily, small town I guess.

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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #4 on: April 28, 2013, 02:51:17 am »

Clicks are a bit different then groups.

After all people naturally form groups.
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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #5 on: April 28, 2013, 02:51:34 am »

Now were these just groups with hostility between them? or were these just names for people who hung out together?
[The brash] would on occasion get into serious kerfluffles or fights with other schools, people's houses, other people; both in and out of their social connections. But as I said there was overlap, you could find keenos and nerds hanging out with mongs for example.

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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #6 on: April 28, 2013, 02:52:45 am »

No, such things did not exist.
They are a work of fiction invented by script writers that have forgotten how high school worked, but know that conflicting factions makes for an interesting story. Glee is basically Game of Thrones but with singing instead of blood and sex, and so shallow you have preschool kids peeing in it.

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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #7 on: April 28, 2013, 02:53:02 am »

none of that in the high schools i've been in, usually just circles of friends. But i notice different ethic groups often hang in their own group (especially if they dont speak english as well as their first language).

conflict was often just individual, never really any groups in conflict with each other.

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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #8 on: April 28, 2013, 02:55:00 am »

No, such things did not exist.
They are a work of fiction invented by script writers that have forgotten how high school worked, but know that conflicting factions makes for an interesting story. Glee is basically Game of Thrones but with singing instead of blood and sex, and so shallow you have preschool kids peeing in it.
Their rigidity is myth, it's very easy to go between them. But like minded individuals do tend to congregate if for sake of discussion alone.

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« Reply #9 on: April 28, 2013, 02:56:22 am »

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Glee is basically Game of Thrones but with singing instead of blood and sex, and so shallow you have preschool kids peeing in it

Oddly enough in terms of having the least amount of likable characters... Glee wins.

Glee is probably the only show I've seen where the female lead is actually the most hateful character who is framed like she is "The good guy" but in reality is actually more like the mastermind villain who hides behind the mask of being the sweet girl that no one pays attention to.

And yet Glee never seems to recognize that that is exactly what it did. (Mind you my problem with Glee is that it is a badly shot show and never lets the emotion of a scene carry through to the next scene.)

Ok so the CLOSEST to clicks we have seen was from Loud Whispers who even has the cliché of "school rivalries"

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Their rigidity is myth, it's very easy to go between them. But like minded individuals do tend to congregate if for sake of discussion alone

Indeed. Groups form because everyone there are friends and want to hang out. Not out of some "us against them" attitude.

It is why I separate groups (which is just groups of people) and clicks with is an openly antagonistic group of people with strict entrance policies.
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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #10 on: April 28, 2013, 02:57:38 am »

Yes, there were social groups, but not the clicks as shown in popular media. Groups weren't divided by fashion, music or even interests, instead merely by friendship. True, often people would become close to those with similar interests, but it is important to figure out your cause from effect.

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« Reply #11 on: April 28, 2013, 02:59:30 am »

Yes, there were social groups, but not the clicks as shown in popular media. Groups weren't divided by fashion, music or even interests, instead merely by friendship.
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« Reply #12 on: April 28, 2013, 03:04:21 am »

People who were friends would clump together as they had similar interests, so yes groups of sporty people and bookish people, others who knew each other before school or went to parties with each other. No rivalry between them though, the usual jerks would more likely pick on one or two kids in particular then a single group.

For me high school was not like how it's portrayed in TV shows (which is little surprise really) with as distinct groups. The majority of students were fine, a number of them were constant jerks or pains in the arse to either a few students or teachers.

I did go to a private high school but I never saw cases of the snobbery people usually associate with it when they hear that. The jerks probably thought they could get away with being annoying up until the point they were kicked out of the school for breaking school property.

So no, no cliques but groups of likeminded friends yes.
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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #13 on: April 28, 2013, 03:17:06 am »

Cliques? Barely, here. I, personally, am in the band clique, acquainted with the theatre clique, and I a good part of the geek and stoner cliques.

I also feel like I may be a target of envy for the prep clique (4.0 GPA etc), based on the general reactions when I told them my SAT score.

Friend groups are large and nebulous around here. Certain groups have very little overlap, but I'm in most of the ones that don't, hehe. I've noticed that the majority of my friends are friends with each other, but this is a pretty big surprise since I have a damn lot of friends.

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Re: Did your school have Clicks?
« Reply #14 on: April 28, 2013, 03:24:10 am »


Did your school have Clicks?

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Has anyone EVER been to a school like they depict on television or movies?

My highschool had cliques, but they weren't quite the sterotypes generlly shown on film. We had:

 * The football players
 * The swim team (there was actually a special name for them. Something like "the wetbacks" but I don't remember exactly.)
 * The cheerleaders
 * The drama/theatre/music people
 * The people who hang out in the history building during lunch
 * "That crazy guy and the weirdos who hang out with him"

Notably, "the football players" at my highschool were generaly very friendly and intelligent people. A lot of them were on the honor roll, and I don't remeber there ever being a fighting or hazing incident involving one. They were very much separate and distinct and had a semi-antagonisic relationship with the swim team. There wasn't really a single "the jocks" group. I wasn't part of either group so I couldn't tell you why, but it was a very known thing on campus. Also, while "the cheerleaders" were a known group that was talked about as a singular entity, only a very few of them reached any significant levels of notoreity.

There wasn't really a "the nerds" clique. There wasn't really a "the druggies" clique. There were groups of people who did hang out together regularly out of various common interests...for example, our ASB team pretty much kept to themselves (ironically) and spent most of their time together, but they didn't really have a "presence" on campus that people who weren't part of the group could look at and point to and talk about "the ASB people." The above groups did have that kind of a presence.

There were also a number of small "cults of personality" based on individuals who were known by a large portion of the school for various reasons. The "crazy guy" for example, was someone that pretty much everyone in the school knew of, even if people didn't know him personally and had never spoken to him...they knew his name and could identify him and the people who hung out with him and would refer to them as "the guy who hangs out with X" for example. "The cheerleaders" were kind of almost a subgroup like this, with a couple of them being people that "everyone knew" even if they'd never actually spoken to them personally, and I think those couple girls sort of became unintentional spokeswomen for the group as a whole, which in retrospect...was probably a bit unfair. They had a not-entirely-good reputation that wasn't really deserved.

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Where I went, you had your groups but people tended to mix pretty easily, small town I guess.

My school had 1400 students. It was in Orange County. Also, this was in the 90s.

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