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[Shinigami_King]

Dariush, I can understand why you aren't pleased but my post did have more than just "RVS" questions. I claimed what I thought about the "Ranger" affair and don't mistake my question directed at you as a half assed attempt to do something. Answer the god damn question because right now you're actions are looking as sporadic and irrational as Nerjin's. Also, don't hide behind memes thinking that I wont notice you avoiding the question asked that you had quoted in the same post.

[griffinpup]

shinigami:
Have you asked ANY meaningful, non 'RVS' questions this day?  I can't seem to find any.

[Dariush]

Dariush, I can understand why you aren't pleased but my post did have more than just "RVS" questions. I claimed what I thought about the "Ranger" affair and don't mistake my question directed at you as a half assed attempt to do something. Answer the god damn question because right now you're actions are looking as sporadic and irrational as Nerjin's. Also, don't hide behind memes thinking that I wont notice you avoiding the question asked that you had quoted in the same post.

Haha. What you're saying is funny because you're desperately trying to put deeper meaning into the already voiced shitRVS questions and engaging in hypocrisy by accusing me of avoiding your shitquestion while avoiding my question about not following up your previous dose of RVS with anything.

And to answer your shitquestion, no, it is not true and the feature about my scumhunting I find the most significant is the fact that it is absolutely perfect.

By the way, you're still lazy activelurking scum. Voicing your opinion on Ranger affair is, despite the TREMENDOUS amount of effort put into copying the opinion of pretty much everyone else (that scum has no reason to kill third party), not really helping your case due to you not doing absolutely anything else. And before you ask, 'pressuring' me to answer your shitquestion doesn't count either.

[zombie urist]

Griffinpup

Griffinpup: Why haven't you voted yet? Why has the majority of your D2 content been about RangerCado's claim. Do you believe or disbelieve his claim? What's your opinion on DS's case?

shinigami:
Have you asked ANY meaningful, non 'RVS' questions this day?  I can't seem to find any.

This is basically the exact same thing Dariush said.

Dariush: That profanity is going to get you expelled. 

[RangerCado]

Dariush: Well then, why don't you answer all the questions i gave you? Second post of page 60 if you didn't see it. Or are you going to ignore them under the guise of "Their stupid questions" as your doing right now?

[Shinigami_King]

I hate not putting up content but school has only allowed me to devote enough time to this forum to post these questions. Every one does have a purpose.

Daruish-What are your thoughts on Ford's role? How about Ranger's? Nerjin just left us and has been replaced by Guardsman, how will you use this to your advantage? How scummy do you find Guardsman?

I found you, and still find you, scummy. This question was not purely random, it was using the current circumstances presented to me to try to see if you were hiding something, and to see if you would reveal any poor cover up strategies with your scumbuddy. Gathering everyone's oppinions of ford's and ranger's roles was important because if people start contradicting themselves something may be up. Currently I see that you are leading a bit of a bandwaggon against ranger.

Imperial Guardsman - Nerjin has left a bad taste in my mouth. How do you taste? What are your views of Nerjin. Specifically, I'm curious as to what you think of vote mania but I'm curious about your general reads. What do you think of PotL, Tiruin and Solifuge.

This question's purpose was to try to use the replacing player to "triangulate" whether Nerjin was scum or not. IG didn't play... as expected, so the question was null and void.

Everyone- Not asking for WIFOM, just some insight from the public, does anyone here have an opinion that they would like to share about the night. (Nk's, questionable actions etc.)

I think it is important to hear everyone's oppinions of what happened and how we should approach the day.

Birdy- Could you list the major problems with nerjin's and IG's play and try to justify why they played the way they did.

This is once again me attempting to "triangulate" their alignment. I do believe nerjin & accomplices are scum but continued pressure will likely yield greater results.

Dariush- I realize your a bit of a prickly cactus but you seem to change your votes more based on emotion, gut feeling and anger. Is this true? If so why, if not is there something you particularly find significant about your scumhunting?

Your "perfect scumhunting" isn't as perfect as you claim. Don't get full of your self. Your scumhunting day one was practically the opposite of perfect. You cursed people out for colours and pictures and then didn't lead a compelling case for the person you wished to lynch (solifuge) in case you have forgotten already. If you were perfect there would be no reason for us to question you in the first place because your perfect scumhunting would put a flawless case in front of our noses.

Tiruin-You always seem to be nice and you have an acceptable type of play. I have also heard that you are commonly scum. How would I discern scum you from regular you?

This was my most "RVS"-y question. But can you really say that I should not question her skill at being scum. Besides, this blatantly blunt question could cause a slip up. But this is by far my worst question. One thing though is while I don't suspect tiruin I do not want everyone to forget about her all together.
You are back on my radar. Daruish, burn in hell.

[Tiruin]

Tiruin-You always seem to be nice and you have an acceptable type of play. I have also heard that you are commonly scum. How would I discern scum you from regular you?

"I am nice, and thanks for noting that. I have no idea if I'm commonly scum, because I'm not a bullying type--situational stuff happens anyway, and I guess you're thinking that I was made such because of fate. Blame the gods, or the great moderators in the sky for my past, would you?

"Anywhoo, the discernment would have to come straight from your own observations and hypothesis, Mr. Holmes. I cannot give general characteristics if I'm scum or not due to me playing..as who I am in most areas--I'm easily vulnerable to lying (and wanting to lie so my wording is a bit specific at times), I tend to ensure that the intentions or motives are at least non-vague in people who I'm suspicious of, I poke not to undermine, but to catch my target (as scum) on valid cases inasmuch that I can use that case as a double-edged sword against the person in question...Pretty much a vague line between who I am given the role I have. I'm a philosopher and a pre-medical student, someone who looks at humanity with the unbiased eye of realism and someone who appreciates art and music. I abstain from full out lying, or swearing. I aim for long term goals instead of short term goals, and always leave leeway for unexpected occurrences. Need I tell you more or shall I write my own biography along with every itty-bitty precious and precarious flaw I have along with myself in the area? Because that'll cost you.

"Why're you asking me that, and how will it help you?"


Dariush-san

Yeah, this speaks to me that if you're lynched, it's all game over for you. Confirmed third-party, as it seems your wincon needs an exact townie, of an exact gender, to be in the exact house you're in.

Why do you completely discard the extremely likely possibility of him flipping scum, Tiruin?

Tiruin pulls up a white book and opens it to a bookmark.
"Guts."

"I don't see how it's extremely likely that some kind of stupid bully, especially one which I bet has some sort of secret channel of communication with his or her buddies, would try to do such an atrocious act of claiming, failing to claim, panic, (along with the notion of 'bussing'), deflect, panic again, claim house numbers, and have a darn inspect (or..have a scumbuddy in the right house, which I see as really tough, however I'm willing to give the silhouette of the guy in my house given that he got the right number.). Oh, and panic more.

"Tell me, why is it extremely likely? Also,"

PFP Query to those voting Ranger: "How would a claimed Third-Party (despite his antics) be seen as scum due to his flippety-jumpyness? He also has an inspect--something of which would be fairly deadly in scum's hands, but if he flips scum (wherein I read flailing non-mafia), then it would prove that bullies attack via houses--Is that mainly the case on Ms. Cado?"

"You missed something of mine."

Tiruin points at that one other person in the room.

Dariush: That profanity is going to get you expelled. 

"He has a point."


All that, and the notion that most votes on Ranger stem on the probable house-fishing, as well as reluctance to claim his house number. Where's the scumminess in that? None of you voting for him state how.

[griffinpup]

For ex.  You didn't say what house is yours.  You'd have incentive to do this if you were scum.  You wouldn't have incentive to do this if you were the role that you claimed.  If your only defense for this garish mistakes is that you don't think logically, of course I want you out of the game.  I don't want you muddying up the waters, regardless of what alignment you have.  Scum aren't allowed to claim stupid every time they make a mistake.

Griffin, I'd like a thorough explanation of the bolded portions. He hesistated, apparently, but he gave out the house #, as well as that other house he inspected. You seem to be undermining his condition by pointing out a previous statement which doesn't relate to the current statements going on. Where was the orange portion, and what did you do about it given your abject stance on the matter?

Explain why and how, along with how the first statement makes him scum.

I'll do the bolded portions separately. 
You didn't say what house is yours.  You'd have incentive to do this if you were scum.  You wouldn't have incentive to do this if you were the role that you claimed

What I meant in this statement is that Cado never claimed his house number when claiming his role.  This is inconsistent with the role he claimed, which requires someone to go to his house in order for him to win.  It's hard to go to someone's house if you don't know which house it is.  Scum, on the other hand, have motivation to keep their house number secret.  There's most likely a cop or vigilante who operates on house numbers, and any scum would be very reluctant to give out their house number.

I don't want you muddying up the waters, regardless of what alignment you have.  Scum aren't allowed to claim stupid every time they make a mistake.

These two sentences are separate thoughts.  Cado's alignment will always always be in question, and the same issues will probably come up over and over until his win-con, whatever it is, is fulfilled or until he dies.  That is what I meant by muddying the waters.  The second sentence is me referring to the lack of logic behind Cado's actions. 

You were worried about a cop claiming to tell everyone that you're third party and should be lynched for it?  Wouldn't it be better for said cop to wait until they find mafia?

When have you ever seen me think logically? and yes, probably.

Didn't say it was good logic

I don't think that claiming that your logic is flawed discounts or makes up for the actions you have taken.  This is what I'll never be able to get a reliable on Cado, because it's apparent that he doesn't think logically. 

you don't think logically, of course I want you out of the game

Again, this relates back to me not being able to get any sort of reliable reads on Cado, other then the fact that he makes bad decisions.  This is why I'm not voting him, but wouldn't mind seeing him gone.

I'll respond to everyone else soonish.  I'm taking it one post at a time.  I've not had much time recently.
PPE: Turuin

[ToonyMan]

Vote Count

(1)Griffion - Zombie Urist
(0)Leafsnail -
(0)Captain Ford -
(0)Toaster -
(0)Tiruin -
(2)Dariush - RangerCado, Shinigami_King
(0)Zombie Urist -
(0)Phantom of the Library -
(0)Shinigami_King -
(4)RangerCado - Toaster, Dariush, Deathsword, Leafsnail
(0)Deathsword -
(0)Notquitethere -
(0)Solifuge -
(1)Birdy51 - Tiruin

(6)Not Voting: Giffion, Captain Ford, Phantom of the Library, Notquitethere, Solifuge, Birdy51

Day 2 will last until Monday 6/17 at 11 PM EST

[Tiruin]

PFP

For ex.  You didn't say what house is yours.  You'd have incentive to do this if you were scum.  You wouldn't have incentive to do this if you were the role that you claimed.  If your only defense for this garish mistakes is that you don't think logically, of course I want you out of the game.  I don't want you muddying up the waters, regardless of what alignment you have.  Scum aren't allowed to claim stupid every time they make a mistake.

Griffin, I'd like a thorough explanation of the bolded portions. He hesistated, apparently, but he gave out the house #, as well as that other house he inspected. You seem to be undermining his condition by pointing out a previous statement which doesn't relate to the current statements going on. Where was the orange portion, and what did you do about it given your abject stance on the matter?

Explain why and how, along with how the first statement makes him scum.

I'll do the bolded portions separately. 
You didn't say what house is yours.  You'd have incentive to do this if you were scum.  You wouldn't have incentive to do this if you were the role that you claimed

What I meant in this statement is that Cado never claimed his house number when claiming his role.  This is inconsistent with the role he claimed, which requires someone to go to his house in order for him to win.  It's hard to go to someone's house if you don't know which house it is.  Scum, on the other hand, have motivation to keep their house number secret.  There's most likely a cop or vigilante who operates on house numbers, and any scum would be very reluctant to give out their house number.

Why @ bolded part?

[notquitethere]

NQT yawns and runs late into school hiding behind a stack of books.

"Oh, you'll never guess who I saw last night! Student #15, the girl with the cool boots. She wasn't doing any bullying at the time, so I guess that's something we know. Have there been any revelations or are you all just bickering (as usual)?

"Phantom-san, did you learn anything in the night?"

[RangerCado]

NQT: Well theres a band wagon on me, Dariush is avoiding questions, Pup is soft-calling me scum for being illogical, and i claimed third-party since i don't think you were around for the start of the day. We also have Phantom and Solifuge lurking all day.

[RangerCado]

NQT: By the way, where have you been? I actually didn't notice you were gone this entire time... This worries me. I'd like a few reads on people from you, and where did you see no. 15? Or do you just know they took no actions last night? If so, interesting ability claim.

(freaking post button and 504 errors!)

[notquitethere]

Spoiler: excuses (click to show/hide)

(Pretty hectic week--  had a stag do followed by an unrelated wedding the next day, slept past my stop on the train and ended up in pokey market town in bad need of a shave but I went round an agricultural museum instead and saw a foot-powered dentist drill and some mummified mice.)

"I'm not sure I should say yet where I saw Cool Boots-chan in case she lives in that house (it was a girl's house) and the bullies get her. Is that understandable, Ranger-kun? I think the vote to have you evicted is stupid. You obviously want more love in your life and if we could get more houses shut then we increase our chance of catching the bullies in the act, no? Do you disagree, Leafscum-san?"

Spoiler: meta speculation (click to show/hide)

(My character was very suitable for me. I think Solifuge is probably the cat girl. Makes sense on that reasoning that perma-scum Leafsnail and subforum bully Dariush would be the bullies. Their case isn't helped by the nonsense case on RC.

[RangerCado]

NQT: For now atleast. And letting me win only helps town to a certain extent. Town still loses a vote helping them, but they'll gain a confirmed Townie if a male visits me alone. It all comes down to what risk the town wants to take, and whether this sorry excuse for a band wagon lets up. (Hurray! I wasn't referred to as a woman!)