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[Culise]

To be fair, Hitler's Germany did work really well at first. Then it fell prey to the same issues as everything run by somebody who figures the solution to all problems is for them to be in charge of everything forever.

And by "at first," we mean, "as long as we had someone next door to loot to pay the bills."

[TheDarkStar]

It's like the politics version of Godwin's law.

[miauw62]

Except erdogan wants to become the hitler

[DreamerGhost]

Except erdogan wants to become the hitler

His desire to torture the entire jewish race to death and world conquest aside, Hitler was an ok guy. Could do some pretty nice paintings.

[IronyOwl]

Except erdogan wants to become the hitler

His desire to torture the entire jewish race to death and world conquest aside, Hitler was an ok guy. Could do some pretty nice paintings.

Vegeterian and anti-smoking advocate, really a visionary as far as public health was concerned. _{Avoid shower joke avoid shower joke avoid shower joke}

[martinuzz]

Posted this in the wrong thread. Right place here, now.

the German Eurocommisioner Günther Oettinger is going to propose a resolution in next week's meeting of the European Commission.

He wants Poland to be placed under restrictive supervision, until they scrap their new media law, which puts all public media under direct control of the president's party.

This would imply that as long as the supervision is in place, Poland will lose it's right to vote on any European law or resolution.

Over the past week, Poland has gotten a lot of dissaprovement from various countries' foreign ministers, and Eurocommisioners. The proposal of this resolution is one step further, but with current sentiment, it does have a chance of being passed.

The governing Polish party passed this new law to "restore catcholic values, which they (the media) themselves have helped into oblivion under the previous government"

[Loud Whispers]

Some cucks just tried assassinating based Nigel, they forgot he built up immunity to crashes after his plane crash. EU clearly can't handle the banter

U N B A R R A G E A B LE

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Posting Daily Mail in the DPRK Thread. 2016 truly is the pinnacle of shitposting.

[Loud Whispers]

P R E P A R E   Y O U R S E L F

[Sergarr]

lw seems to have absorbed the shitpostiness power of slowpoke and added it to his own for maximum shitposting

he has become the shitpost king no one can stop him now run for your lives while you can fools

[FearfulJesuit]

Except erdogan wants to become the hitler

His desire to torture the entire jewish race to death and world conquest aside, Hitler was an ok guy. Could do some pretty nice paintings.

Vegeterian and anti-smoking advocate, really a visionary as far as public health was concerned. _{Avoid shower joke avoid shower joke avoid shower joke}

It's really too bad he had to ruin a great mustache.

[Loud Whispers]

Over the past week, Poland has gotten a lot of dissaprovement from various countries' foreign ministers, and Eurocommisioners.

Yeah, Germans and Swedes who would've guessed. Meanwhile the EU's plan to create a border agency which can disregard national sovereignty becuz EU says so that answers to the unelected Commission because the Commission says so has led various countries' prime ministers to tell the EU to suck on a stick of cauliflower. It's a beautiful day to be demolishing the dreams of bureaucrats, unless you're being assassinated

The proposal of this resolution is one step further, but with current sentiment, it does have a chance of being passed.
The governing Polish party passed this new law to "restore catcholic values, which they (the media) themselves have helped into oblivion under the previous government"

I AM TRIGGERED

lw seems to have absorbed the shitpostiness power of slowpoke and added it to his own for maximum shitposting
he has become the shitpost king no one can stop him now run for your lives while you can fools

IT'S THE CURRENT YEAR

Posted this in the wrong thread. Right place here, now.
the German Eurocommisioner Günther Oettinger is going to propose a resolution in next week's meeting of the European Commission.
He wants Poland to be placed under restrictive supervision, until they scrap their new media law, which puts all public media under direct control of the president's party.
This would imply that as long as the supervision is in place, Poland will lose it's right to vote on any European law or resolution.

How do you lose a right you never had? Shitposting bants all on one side, I'll be dead serious.

The European Union has consistently been taking away the people's countries from themselves. When they wanted the European Constitution they let the French and Dutch public decide if the French or Dutch wanted the EU to govern them or whether they wanted to govern themselves, the French and Dutch people decide no and that should've been the end of that. They try it again by repackaging the Constitution as the Lisbon Treaty, giving themselves the same powers over the Nation State and don't give the people referendums on whether or not they want to give away their national sovereignty. Only the ROI which was the most constitutionally distinct nation was allowed a referendum, when their people voted no the EU forced them to take a second referendum until they voted yes. It was supposed to be that any time a nation gave away their own self-determination to the EU there would be a referendum on it, but this has been disregarded again and again. Parliaments have no teeth without control of their own currency, no supremacy of law, no control of their budgets, their media, their borders, no seats on the WTO, with the EU deciding it can disregard nations whenever it feels like it as it is above their law. Our Europhiles claimed the EU had no interest in creating a common military which is bollocks and the EU is now trying to get France and Britain to hand over their permanent seats on the Security Council to them.

How do you lose a right you never had?
Their is no greater loss for Poland to lose, than to lose Poland.

Today the European Commission adopted a new framework for addressing systemic threats to the rule of law in any of the EU's 28 Member States. The initiative comes after the College of Commissioners held two orientation debates on the rule of law on 28 August 2013 and on 25 February 2014, which concluded that there is a need to develop a tool to deal, at EU level, with systemic threats to the rule of law. The new rule of law framework will be complementary to infringement procedures - when EU law has been breached – and to the so-called 'Article 7 procedure' of the Lisbon Treaty which, at its most severe, allows for the suspension of voting rights in case of a "serious and persistent breach" of EU values by a Member State.
If this sounds fucking horrendous it's from the EU themselves

The EU gave itself powers to crush what member states want for themselves based off of a treaty they had no say in signing in order to enforce "European Union values" they do not endorse because they are "systemic threats" to the rule of laws they did not make that have supremacy over their own nationhood only because the Eurocrats say they have some right to it. I've only got one thing to say to that, good job Poland and  C A U L I F L O W E R

[Sheb]

I love how in LW's world, the European Council is not a thing. Not that I disagree that the EU Constitution thing was a farce (and whatever changes the Irish did get - such as a guarantee of one Commissioner per state - sucks), but those things were done with the agreement of the Council, aka the various state governments.

Also, LW, do you have stuff on " Commission because the Commission says so has led various countries' prime ministers to tell the EU to suck on a stick of cauliflower."? Last I heard of it, it went through some preliminary Council hearing wihtout causing too much of a fuss.

[Loud Whispers]

I love how in LW's world, the European Council is not a thing.

In the ancient Spartan government the council of elders would propose state policy to the citizens of Sparta eligible to vote. Although the Spartans could vote, they could only ever vote for policies put forth by the council of elders, who could also simply keep proposing a policy until it passed. The citizenry held only enough power to delay policy change.
The European Council, the collection of all of the Prime Ministers and Presidents of the European states that make up the European Union have even less power, not even able to vote on the policies put forth by the European Commission. At most, the heads of states can provide a guide for the Commission and pray the Commission will listen to them. They are reduced to nothing more than managers. Unless they make like a Pole and tell the EU to suck on some cauliflower.

Not that I disagree that the EU Constitution thing was a farce (and whatever changes the Irish did get - such as a guarantee of one Commissioner per state - sucks), but those things were done with the agreement of the Council, aka the various state governments.

Any handover of popular sovereignty was to be done by referendum, not by the heads of states. Flaunting this was done for the express reason that in all likelihood the Lisbon treaty would have failed just as the EU Constitution did if the people were allowed to decide for themselves. Obviously only affluent elite male academics matter though, so no one is allowed to decide for themselves. Hurray for EU democracy?

Also, LW, do you have stuff on " Commission because the Commission says so has led various countries' prime ministers to tell the EU to suck on a stick of cauliflower."? Last I heard of it, it went through some preliminary Council hearing wihtout causing too much of a fuss.

Frontex is based in Poland
Poland just told Frontex to suck on a stick of cauliflower
Poland is based
In all seriousness though the only EU countries this does not affect are France, Britain, Germany and Ireland. Ireland and Britain both retain control of their borders and have told the EU to fuck off and suck on a stick of cauliflower whilst France and Germany are surrounded by Schengen countries and so have lost nothing whilst taking from the Balkan, Southern and Eastern countries. Unsurprisingly the Balkan, Southern and Eastern countries are outraged that the Germans believe they can simply give themselves their borders, least of all after Germany brought this disaster to Europe and hypocritically instates border controls on its own nation whilst fucking over the Balkans. Principle critics are Poland, Hungary and Amnesty International. Everyone has otherwise decided Greeks and Italians don't matter and will simply be Europe's refugee camp for German immigrants Germany doesn't want, and Turkey is just chuckling sensibly because they've won.

[Sheb]

Yeah, because the previous situation (the Dublin rules) didn't have Greece and Italy be the rest of Europe's refugees camp. Common borders means you need to have a common immigration policy so that you don't end up with the border state having to deal with all of it. And yeah, you need the common border to be policed. Either you let the countries do it themselves (and then they tend to just decide to let the migrants through, as seen in the Balkans) or you share the burden of policing the common border.

It's hilarious to see you blaming Merkel for the refugees crisis. Do you also blame Cameron for the migrants slums in Calais?