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[mainiac]

Spoiler: A typical right wing party programme (click to show/hide)

The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:
Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

Interesting strawman argument you have here.  Sure as hell doesn't resemble nazi germany or the fascist movements in Italy or Japan.  They had unilateral control of the governments in all three countries and didn't do any of that stuff, unlike say, Soviet Russia.

Let me try!

Spoiler: The platform of a conservative party I just made up (click to show/hide)

This is not a strawman and can totally be used to discredit conservative movements
We believe in screwing over the poor because we can
Buttons should always be worn in multiples of three
Fascism was not a left wing movement
The plural of moose is meese.

Wow, argument by complete and utter fabrication is fun!

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Maniac, Did I understand you in a proper way, you claim that text in my spoiler has nothing to do with Nazi Germany, right?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Enough of this, go argue in a general politics thread.

We have far more important things to talk about, like two-thirds of North Koreans being meth heads.

[LordSlowpoke]

someone's been watching breaking bad i see.

[FearfulJesuit]

Sounds like this is a newer development. Could this bring down the regime, finally?

[MetalSlimeHunt]

The majority of your population using highly addictive narcotics is not something that just happens overnight.

[PatriotSaint]

Well, it works in small communities. communism that is.
Socialism works in several nations, although some people do keep attempting to remove it...

Large-scale communism is just woefully inefficient survivalism.

Survivalism is small-scale communism.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

I meant what I said before. If you all want to debate the nature of communism, go to another thread.

[PatriotSaint]

Well, considering that North Korea is Communist (sorry, I mean Socialist Juche)... It does have some sort or relevance.

Well, at least as much as jokes about meth-heads and such. 

[MagmaMcFry]

Now I need Breaking Best.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

If you want to discuss the nature of North Korea's government specifically, that's fine, though as I argued before North Korea is more about racism than any kind of communist or socialist ideology. Most of the communist rhetoric is a result of them ending up in the USSR (and later PRC) power block. In practice, they're a militant hereditary monarchy.

[PatriotSaint]

So they're racists.

That doesn't mean they aren't, in fact, Socialist Juche and/or Communists.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

It's not "Socialist Juche", it's just "Juche". While it has sometimes been described as "Korean-style socialism", Juche has about as much to do with socialism as "Socialism with Chinese characteristics" does. (Which is to say, not at all.)

North Korea isn't exactly in a position to push ideology. They're survivalist, they're isolationist, and they're racist, but I don't see them as being communist in any functional sense.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

it's not about ideology, you can be a racist and a nationalist and still believe in a socialist implementation of your favourite right wing ideology. it's about planned economy vs free market, not universalist hippies vs xenophobic thugs, socialism and nationalism\racism aren't in the same political axis

[ChairmanPoo]

and planned economy vs free market does not necessarily imply communism either. You can have a planned economy and rely on private contractors nonetheless. Most fascist goverments did this to different extents.