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[Aseaheru]

So its just there government watching and not the government and multi-national corporations? Nice.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

North Korea is a country that humanity requires to see what communism is
Of cause Communists have an old mantra: "that's not a proper communism" but people with a brain can look at the working example and make a smart decision to stay away from ideology like this

I am like 99% sure that rumors about executions of Jun's girlfriend are true, because that's an expected  route to destroy anyone who knows that Kim is just a fat stupid child.
Stalin did the same thing. He destroyed everyone who knew that he is nothing but a thug

[10ebbor10]

North Korea isn't communistic by far. It's a state planned economy, yes, and a horrible at that. But it's just a personal dictature.

[alexandertnt]

North Korea is a country that humanity requires to see what communism is
Of cause Communists have an old mantra: "that's not a proper communism" but people with a brain can look at the working example and make a smart decision to stay away from ideology like this

Like all political ideologies, there are many flavours of Communism. Asserting all communism/comunists to equate-to/support NK's Juche is a pretty good way to demonstrate a complete lack of knowledge on the subject, and an equally effective way of saying nothing useful .

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Any decease has different flavors. Some are more severe, some less. Getting infected hoping to get healthier is unwise, especially when you have an example of infected before your eyes.

Idea of communism is not viable, impossible and degrades humans to the level of ants. Luckily it's just impossible to get as far as communist hope but any attempt to achieve it will lead to serious trouble in any society

[Real3]

There's no polite way for me to say this. Ukranian Ranger's the same guy who preached about the "glory" of Fascism and claimed the Nazis were leftists on this very forum. Don't bother arguing with him.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

  the same guy who preached about the "glory" of Fascism

Not true

and claimed the Nazis were leftists

Yep, I claim that socialist worker's party were leftists. Crazy me

Spoiler: A typical right wing party programme (click to show/hide)

The first obligation of every citizen must be to work both spiritually and physically. The activity of individuals is not to counteract the interests of the universality, but must have its result within the framework of the whole for the benefit of all. Consequently we demand:
Abolition of unearned (work and labour) incomes. Breaking of debt (interest)-slavery.
In consideration of the monstrous sacrifice in property and blood that each war demands of the people, personal enrichment through a war must be designated as a crime against the people. Therefore we demand the total confiscation of all war profits.
We demand the nationalisation of all (previous) associated industries (trusts).
We demand a division of profits of all heavy industries.
We demand an expansion on a large scale of old age welfare.
We demand the creation of a healthy middle class and its conservation, immediate communalization of the great warehouses and their being leased at low cost to small firms, the utmost consideration of all small firms in contracts with the State, county or municipality.
We demand a land reform suitable to our needs, provision of a law for the free expropriation of land for the purposes of public utility, abolition of taxes on land and prevention of all speculation in land.

But that's a rather large offtopic, I just posted a kind of PTW post to follow the news. I knew that this "North Korean communism isn't true one" stuff will arise

[10ebbor10]

Point is, true communism has never, and probably will never arise. It requires all people to be good, willing to help their friends at all costs, and play fair by the rules.

Besides, the meaning of communism has been changed to State capitalism, and any succesfull implementation is automatically called socialism instead.

[alexandertnt]

Getting infected hoping to get healthier is unwise

No, not really.

Idea of communism is not viable

In general, I agree. But categorising it as a "disease" and an "infection" is not helpful in working out why it is not viable, its just useless emotional rhetoric.

[Gamerlord]

Getting infected hoping to get healthier is unwise.

I believe that there are cases where, excluding using phage viruses and vaccines, getting a disease will actually cause a more deadly one to be weakened.

Cowpox vs Smallpox. Cowpox was used as a vaccine for smallpox.

[alexandertnt]

It is also generally better to get Chickenpox at a young age, rather than at an older age where it can be more severe.

[MetalSlimeHunt]

Better, but now that there's a vaccine you should just get that instead. Chickenpox can still be severe/fatal in children, albeit rarely.

As for North Korea, there's a good argument to be made that they follow a more racist ideology than a communist one.

[PatriotSaint]

NK claimed switched they switched their governmental system from Communism to Socialist Juche a while ago, can't remember the exact date. (even though it's only a Google search away)

Not much of an improvement, I must say.

[PatriotSaint]

Point is, true communism has never, and probably will never arise. It requires all people to be good, willing to help their friends at all costs, and play fair by the rules.

Besides, the meaning of communism has been changed to State capitalism, and any succesfull implementation is automatically called socialism instead.

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"true communism never has, never will"

Agreed. Let's look further.

"requires all people to be good, willing to help their friends at all cost, and play fair by the rules"

While that could just as easily describe National Socialism (NOOOO Godwin's law), I agree that the only way that communism would ever work is if:

a) we all became robots
b) everyone magically and suddenly discovered they were living on a Heaven On Earth; courtesy of the new and improved government of course.
c) a world where people that think they can stop rape by telling people to not rape people would actually magically work, would have to actually exist, and, unfortunately (for us and for the idiots behind that type of logic), it doesn't and never will.

[Aseaheru]

Well, it works in small communities. communism that is.
Socialism works in several nations, although some people do keep attempting to remove it...