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[Eric Blank]

I wager the U.S. public will overall flip their shit, especially republicans, while the U.S. government will sit in their shit, and say "Yeah, yeah it was a real tragedy, damn shame. North Korea sucks. Back to work." and beyond that do nothing.

Just a hunch I suppose.

[Flying Dice]

Actually going to war with NK is very much against U.S. interests for the moment. If anything at all I suspect that if the guy is actually executed there'll be increased sanctions, but that's about the upper limit. That aside, I'm not convinced they'll kill him, rather than imprisoning him or quietly deporting him. NK is walking a fine line and I don't believe that enough of their crazy is genuine for them to not care about potentially pushing too far.

[Loud Whispers]

Seriously folks. North Korea has US national in custody, faces death penalty for plotting to overthrow government. Trial soon, although they claim he has admitted his guilt.

The trial's already decided if he's guilty or not if anything's to go by a corrupt regime. America may not go to war over this but I'm expectantly waiting to catch sight of a Gaddafi style attempted decapitation strike.

[tahujdt]

Seriously folks. North Korea has US national in custody, faces death penalty for plotting to overthrow government. Trial soon, although they claim he has admitted his guilt.

The trial's already decided if he's guilty or not if anything's to go by a corrupt regime. America may not go to war over this but I'm expectantly waiting to catch sight of a Gaddafi style attempted decapitation strike.

Trust me, this one won't be "attempted".

[ChairmanPoo]

They're going to try to ransom him. That's what it's all about

[Owlbread]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lh0B5SBsoTI

George Galloway, everyone's favourite demagogue, has interesting words for the Korean peninsula where he claims that it is NATO aggression, not North Korean aggression, that is the main source of this problem.

[Flying Dice]

Amidst the rhetoric, I heard one thing which was really quite attractive to me.

...and on American warships, constantly maneuvering, patrolling, and war-gaming around the seas...

He makes it sound like they're a jolly lot of sailors playing tabletop games on the high seas.



On a more serious note, what gives him away is the repetition of "puppet state" in reference to South Korea. It would be more believable if Galloway would stick to the nuclear approach, because that's almost within sight of being reasonable.

[Just Some Guy]

North Korea prepares for a military drill.

[Owlbread]

On a more serious note, what gives him away is the repetition of "puppet state" in reference to South Korea. It would be more believable if Galloway would stick to the nuclear approach, because that's almost within sight of being reasonable.

Yes, I agree completely. There's lots of little things like that with Mr. Galloway - lots of little things that give him away. But yes, I do find it interesting that North Korea's proposals for a Korean confederation and complete disarmament do put them on a moral high-ground when compared with the Americans. The fear would of course be whether the North would seize the day and conquer the South with military might, but is that so certain?

[Vactor]

But yes, I do find it interesting that North Korea's proposals for a Korean confederation and complete disarmament do put them on a moral high-ground when compared with the Americans. The fear would of course be whether the North would seize the day and conquer the South with military might, but is that so certain?

Because if there's one thing North Korea is known for, its the value of their promises.  Unfortunately this promise would conflict with their other promises such as turning Seoul into a sea of flames.

[Owlbread]

Because if there's one thing North Korea is known for, its the value of their promises.  Unfortunately this promise would conflict with their other promises such as turning Seoul into a sea of flames.

When though have they broken a promise outright in recent years?

[Dutchling]

The 'war on the fifteenth' one?

[Guardian G.I.]

I've noticed that when Western news agencies quote the official North Korean announcements, they edit them to make North Korea look more aggressive. For example, all threats towards the United States, Japan and South Korea are originally written along the lines of "If you try to attack us, we'll wipe you off the map". The "If you try to attack us..." part is usually removed by news agencies, making the original announcement sound like "We'll wipe you off the map [without any clear reason whatsoever]!"

[Loud Whispers]

I've noticed that when Western news agencies quote the official North Korean announcements, they edit them to make North Korea look more aggressive.

Western news loves fear mongering. It's not specific to the topic at hand.

'SHORTAGE OF SALT _may SOON LEAD TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD!'
'SUPER RETROVIRAL ANTIOBIOTIC RESISTANCE BUGS _possibly FLYING TOWARDS YOUR CHILDREN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT!'
'WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN CERTAIN DEATH AND HOSPITALS, BUT HERE'S SOME DATA _{that does not represent any scientific fact} THAT SAYS JUST THAT.'
'YOUR MOMMY AND DADDY ARE CERTAIN TO DIE IN A HORRIBLE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST _{if countries enacted a global nuclear war.} AS PROVEN BY LEADING FIGURE'S STATISTICS_{, leading figures not named.}'

[Owlbread]

Western news loves fear mongering. It's not specific to the topic at hand.

'SHORTAGE OF SALT _may SOON LEAD TO HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF DEAD!'
'SUPER RETROVIRAL ANTIOBIOTIC RESISTANCE BUGS _possibly FLYING TOWARDS YOUR CHILDREN AT THE SPEED OF LIGHT!'
'WE'RE NOT GOING TO TELL YOU THAT THERE'S A CORRELATION BETWEEN CERTAIN DEATH AND HOSPITALS, BUT HERE'S SOME DATA _{that does not represent any scientific fact} THAT SAYS JUST THAT.'
'YOUR MOMMY AND DADDY ARE CERTAIN TO DIE IN A HORRIBLE NUCLEAR HOLOCAUST _{if countries enacted a global nuclear war.} AS PROVEN BY LEADING FIGURE'S STATISTICS_{, leading figures not named.}'

Very true. I was going to bring up my own experiences with fear mongering and sensationalism of that exact sort in newspapers but I'm concerned that I'd derail the thread completely considering it's not related to the Korean situation.

But yes - I think we're going to have to take a lot of the newspaper articles out there on the issue with a pinch of salt.