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[MetalSlimeHunt]

I think mainiac is aware that CSM is a pretty solid publication (hence the "I jest"). At least I hope he is. CSM is very well regarded in their coverage of foreign affairs.

Waiiiiiiiittt a minute. CSM. Christian Science Monitor.....or.....Chaos Space Marines?

How could we have been so blind!?

Don't be silly. Run along, citizen. Nothing to Tzeentch here.

And now on to our next story, where we join Senior Correspondent Kharn the Betrayer on the DMZ. Kharn?

"THIS PLACE IS SO FUCKING BORING, NOBODY IS FIGHTING OR ANYTHING EVEN THOUGH THEY REALLY WANT TO, WHAT IS THIS ORDERLY BULLSHIT, KILL EACH OTHER ALREADY, BLOOD FOR THE BLOOD GO-"

-Oookkaaay, Kharn is clearly in a bad mood today, so let's move on.

[jimboo]

Where is Aqizzer and his cat picture when we need him.

Aqizzar's was the Hound from The Fox and the Hound. I presume you may have been referring to this, from my ill-fated politics thread:

What, somebody has a better cat avatar than me?  Shiite and Sunni ... Nom's chain-mail kitty in full size has the tag "GOD WILLS IT" which I photoshopped to "Armok wills it" for DF but it gets clipped as a thumbnail. 

Would you share the link for the full resolution Hell No Kitty?  Pretty please?

[jimboo]

Never mind (cue voice of Gilda Radner) -- found it on Google Images altho res seems limited to 800x.  That's what I get for posting before the second cup of coffee kicks in ... sorry, everyone. 

[Just Some Guy]

Um, guys? Check this out.
Can North Korea even reach Guam?

[Mephansteras]

Um, guys? Check this out.
Can North Korea even reach Guam?

Maybe. If their rocket doesn't explode shortly after liftoff...

[Flying Dice]

be mindful that everything will be reduced to ashes and flames the moment the first attack is unleashed

you have no chance to survive make your time

I think I figured it out. This is how the world ends.

[Mephansteras]

Launch all Zig!

[tahujdt]

I think that a conventional strike on NK would be good from a worldwide standpoint. Here I mean an invasion, or at least some surgical strikes on factories and siloes. My points:

1) If the US does not do something about it (besides sanctions, UN sanctions do not really have an effect), then people know that we are too wishy-washy to actually deal with a threat.

2) NK may very well sell nuclear stuff to other countries, like Iran, or some other sleazebag little country.

3)Letting crazy people have weapons of mass destruction is generally a bad idea.

4) NK may start extorting smaller countries, giving them more resources.

5) NK would simply love to attack SK, and now they have a weapon to threaten their neighbors.

There is a South Korean exchange student at my school, so this issue is often discussed in the lunchroom. We can defend ourselves against NKorean missiles just fine, but we have a responsability to protect other countries.

[Mephansteras]

That still ignores the whole 'North Korea shells Seoul to hell within the first few hours of the war starting.

We'd be able to crush them, yes, but at a huge cost to South Korea. I really don't think the US has any business invading North Korea unless South Korea decides that it's the best thing to do and asks us to help.

[Owlbread]

That still ignores the whole 'North Korea shells Seoul to hell within the first few hours of the war starting.

We'd be able to crush them, yes, but at a huge cost to South Korea. I really don't think the US has any business invading North Korea unless South Korea decides that it's the best thing to do and asks us to help.

The North Koreans should also have the right of self determination in that they should determine whether they are annexed by the South, join a confederation or whatever.

[Tellemurius]

That still ignores the whole 'North Korea shells Seoul to hell within the first few hours of the war starting.

We'd be able to crush them, yes, but at a huge cost to South Korea. I really don't think the US has any business invading North Korea unless South Korea decides that it's the best thing to do and asks us to help.

The North Koreans should also have the right of self determination in that they should determine whether they are annexed by the South, join a confederation or whatever.

either side wants to absorb the other but far as i can see NK haven't been taking care of its own citizens very well and theres no argument saying otherwise.

[Tellemurius]

That still ignores the whole 'North Korea shells Seoul to hell within the first few hours of the war starting.

We'd be able to crush them, yes, but at a huge cost to South Korea. I really don't think the US has any business invading North Korea unless South Korea decides that it's the best thing to do and asks us to help.

The North Koreans should also have the right of self determination in that they should determine whether they are annexed by the South, join a confederation or whatever.

either side wants to absorb the other but far as i can see NK haven't been taking care of its own citizens very well and theres no argument saying otherwise.

[RedKing]

I think that a conventional strike on NK would be good from a worldwide standpoint. Here I mean an invasion, or at least some surgical strikes on factories and siloes. My points:

1) If the US does not do something about it (besides sanctions, UN sanctions do not really have an effect), then people know that we are too wishy-washy to actually deal with a threat.

2) NK may very well sell nuclear stuff to other countries, like Iran, or some other sleazebag little country.

3)Letting crazy people have weapons of mass destruction is generally a bad idea.

4) NK may start extorting smaller countries, giving them more resources.

5) NK would simply love to attack SK, and now they have a weapon to threaten their neighbors.

There is a South Korean exchange student at my school, so this issue is often discussed in the lunchroom. We can defend ourselves against NKorean missiles just fine, but we have a responsability to protect other countries.

Gee, I remember a similar logic about how we had a responsibility to invade Iraq for the good of the world. How'd that turn out again? 

[10ebbor10]

1) You kinda are. The US doesn't have a bussiness in policing the world. That time's over.
2) Somehow I doubt that NK nuclear technology is higher advanced than Iranian. Iran has better facilitiesn, acces to materials and scientists. They're just way more diplomatic. Besides, what's wrong with Iran having Nukes.
3) Agreed. Now how about handing those things over.
4) I highly, highly doubt they'd be able to do this. NK isn't that strong, most of their borders are locked down, and China is neither tiny nor easily threatened.
5) They had those weapons a long time ago. WW2 artillery might not be high tech, but it works.

Oh, and American spear headed attack on North Korea would probably see a retaliation of China.  I highly doubt the UN would intervene in such a conflict.

either side wants to absorb the other but far as i can see NK haven't been taking care of its own citizens very well and theres no argument saying otherwise.

They don't. Such an influx of hostile. (50 years of propaganda), dirt poor, and untrained employees would crash SK economy. Likewise, SK wealth would put NK social structure under extreme stress.

[Owlbread]

Gee, I remember a similar logic about how we had a responsibility to invade Iraq for the good of the world. How'd that turn out again? 

I'm actually wrestling with that idea. North Korea is such a brutal place that it makes Iraq look like Sweden... when is there ever a just war?