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[Wannabehero]

Awesome work Lucas, as always.

LNP is indispensable to newbs.  I remember how much it helped me when I was a newbie.

If we create graphics packs, can/will you add them to LNP?  I'm currently slowly working on a 20px tileset, and was wondering what the bribe might entail.

[daveralph1234]

Version 18.1

Double clicking on items in the utility list will no longer toggle their check state and will instead correctly launch the utility.

Updated version information in help/about dialog.

[TolyK]

Just wanted to say again, thanks for keeping LNP going.
(Why do you have "unofficial" in our sig?)

[Hugo_The_Dwarf]

Because Lucas originally made it, but due to real life/boredom? He stopped updating it and release it's source code, so now daveralph1234 took it up to maintain LNP and since he is not the creator, it is unofficial.

[TolyK]

No, I meant more like... as far as I remember, Lucas handed it off to the community, since he didn't have time to work (and/or will) on it (neither did/do I, unfortunately).
This, this would be the official thread.

[Wannabehero]

Keep up the good work Daveralph

[Uthric]

so where do i find the most up to date LNP?

[fricy]

so where do i find the most up to date LNP?

Here.

[PeridexisErrant]

Another small feature request... recognise .bat scripts as executable utilities. 

When I switched the pack back to just using this GUI, I didn't realise that it broke my dfterm3 setup - I was using a .bat script to install the first time, then run each time after.  I found this after realising that I could modify my legends processing script to run from another folder trivially with 'CD/folder'... and it not showing up in the list.  The exclusions file might expand, but it'll be worth it!  (I'll release r50 once this is available)

[daveralph1234]

Version 18.2

Utilities list now supports .bat scripts

[PeridexisErrant]

Yay!  New pack version coming up... and it's mostly a GUI update, so thanks for your work and all the awesome results. 

[PeridexisErrant]

An odd behaviour I wanted to ask about:  When the GUI is launched, it check for a file ("LNP1.8.txt) in the DF folder.  If the file is not present the GUI copies the contents of LNP/extras into the DF folder, creates the file saying that it installed extras on $date, and shows a popup message. 

This is why my pack has inexplicably had a bunch of random files and folders appear...  It makes sense that this would be a feature when the LNP was generally distributed as a standalone program - it adds worldgen and embark profiles, I'm not sure how overwrites are handled. 

I've dealt with this by just renaming the LNP/extras folder LNP/useful, and the whole issue goes away. 

[PeridexisErrant]

Unfortunate triple-post, but I've got a bug which I'm pretty sure was introduced by the update to GUI v18.2

People have been reporting issues with jumbled text and tilesets, which seems to be traceable to problems switching out the raw/objects folder. 

Spoiler: reports and attempts at replication (click to show/hide)

Here's a pic.

Been trying to reliably recreate the jumbled text bug.  It seems to be linked to changing texture packs, though there could be some other factor.  From a fresh download each time (deleting the folder and re-copying from zip):

METHOD (FROM FRESH COPY):

1 - Change Texture Pack to _____________.
1(a) - YES to update save games (though there are none)
1(b) - True Type Fonts may automatically update to NO.  If it does, leave it at NO.  If it doesn't, leave it at YES.

2 - Create new world and embark.

RESULT (three runs for each texture pack):

[12x12] Jolly Bastion 34.10v5 - NOT BUGGED
[12x8] ASCII Default 0.34.11 - BUGGED - (TTF automatically changes to NO)
[16x16] ASCII Square 0.34.11 - BUGGED - (TTF does not automatically change and remains YES)
[16x16] CLA v15 - NOT BUGGED
[16x16] Ironhand 0.73.4 - BUGGED - (TTF does not automatically change and remains YES)
[16x16] Mayday 0.34.11 - BUGGED - (TTF does not automatically change and remains YES)
[16x16] Obsidian 0.8a - NOT BUGGED
[16x16] Phoebus 34.11v05 - NOT BUGGED
[16x16] Spacefox 34.11v1.0 - NOT BUGGED

*note: Phoebus pack WAS changed, despite being default.

EDIT:

Looking through the raws of each texture pack, the language_DWARF.txt files are different between the packs that are bugged and the packs that aren't.  The packs that use the same language as the default Dwarf Fortress language_DWARF.txt are the ones that are bugged.  In-game, the default phrases use characters with accents (umlauts, etc.).

Various words in each file:

Bugged (original DF):
[T_WORD:APPLE:bem•ng]
[T_WORD:BEE:agˆk]
[T_WORD:CAKE:c”s]

Non-Bugged (other texture packs):
[T_WORD:APPLE:bemong]
[T_WORD:BEE:agek]
[T_WORD:CAKE:cos]

I replied to this in another forum, but regarding the text-jumbling issue:


I recently downloaded this gentleman's save file -- http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/213ckj/how_do_you_handle_migrants/, as he was looking for advice.  When I opened it, many of the symbols were "wrong."

Screenshots are here: notice the walls. http://imgur.com/aC1hqkl,bHk5x9H,xskltjn

* Yellow Ä - Sandy Clay Wall

* Red â - Rough-hewn Cinnabar Wall

* White å - Rough-hewn Quartzite Wall

Now, I'm not sure if TehFrederick (the author of that thread) uses a texture pack, but that may be where the mixup is coming from.

I use the [12x8] ASCII Default 0.34.11 textures.  In worlds that I've created (which start with ASCII graphics), the walls are of the usual ÷, ▓, ▒, ░ variety.  I still get the jumbled names, though.

Many of the "jumbled" symbols are used in walls; similarly, they appear in names where characters with umlauts or accents would normally occur.

I'm pretty sure there's something wonky going on in the translation between texture packs and characters with accents, substituting wall textures like ╕ or ╝ to get thrown in where accented characters should be.

[daveralph1234]

Version 18.3

Fixed a number of bugs, most notably this one:

Unfortunate triple-post, but I've got a bug which I'm pretty sure was introduced by the update to GUI v18.2

People have been reporting issues with jumbled text and tilesets, which seems to be traceable to problems switching out the raw/objects folder. 

Spoiler: reports and attempts at replication (click to show/hide)

Here's a pic.

Been trying to reliably recreate the jumbled text bug.  It seems to be linked to changing texture packs, though there could be some other factor.  From a fresh download each time (deleting the folder and re-copying from zip):

METHOD (FROM FRESH COPY):

1 - Change Texture Pack to _____________.
1(a) - YES to update save games (though there are none)
1(b) - True Type Fonts may automatically update to NO.  If it does, leave it at NO.  If it doesn't, leave it at YES.

2 - Create new world and embark.

RESULT (three runs for each texture pack):

[12x12] Jolly Bastion 34.10v5 - NOT BUGGED
[12x8] ASCII Default 0.34.11 - BUGGED - (TTF automatically changes to NO)
[16x16] ASCII Square 0.34.11 - BUGGED - (TTF does not automatically change and remains YES)
[16x16] CLA v15 - NOT BUGGED
[16x16] Ironhand 0.73.4 - BUGGED - (TTF does not automatically change and remains YES)
[16x16] Mayday 0.34.11 - BUGGED - (TTF does not automatically change and remains YES)
[16x16] Obsidian 0.8a - NOT BUGGED
[16x16] Phoebus 34.11v05 - NOT BUGGED
[16x16] Spacefox 34.11v1.0 - NOT BUGGED

*note: Phoebus pack WAS changed, despite being default.

EDIT:

Looking through the raws of each texture pack, the language_DWARF.txt files are different between the packs that are bugged and the packs that aren't.  The packs that use the same language as the default Dwarf Fortress language_DWARF.txt are the ones that are bugged.  In-game, the default phrases use characters with accents (umlauts, etc.).

Various words in each file:

Bugged (original DF):
[T_WORD:APPLE:bem•ng]
[T_WORD:BEE:agˆk]
[T_WORD:CAKE:c”s]

Non-Bugged (other texture packs):
[T_WORD:APPLE:bemong]
[T_WORD:BEE:agek]
[T_WORD:CAKE:cos]

I replied to this in another forum, but regarding the text-jumbling issue:


I recently downloaded this gentleman's save file -- http://www.reddit.com/r/dwarffortress/comments/213ckj/how_do_you_handle_migrants/, as he was looking for advice.  When I opened it, many of the symbols were "wrong."

Screenshots are here: notice the walls. http://imgur.com/aC1hqkl,bHk5x9H,xskltjn

* Yellow Ä - Sandy Clay Wall

* Red â - Rough-hewn Cinnabar Wall

* White å - Rough-hewn Quartzite Wall

Now, I'm not sure if TehFrederick (the author of that thread) uses a texture pack, but that may be where the mixup is coming from.

I use the [12x8] ASCII Default 0.34.11 textures.  In worlds that I've created (which start with ASCII graphics), the walls are of the usual ÷, ▓, ▒, ░ variety.  I still get the jumbled names, though.

Many of the "jumbled" symbols are used in walls; similarly, they appear in names where characters with umlauts or accents would normally occur.

I'm pretty sure there's something wonky going on in the translation between texture packs and characters with accents, substituting wall textures like ╕ or ╝ to get thrown in where accented characters should be.

[PeridexisErrant]

Quick question - any particular reason not to have the code at https://github.com/daveralph1234/LazyNewbPack as well as / instead of on DFFD?  It'd make collaboration a lot easier, what with having a well-defined way to contribute code or raise issues and suggest improvements.