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[Sonlirain]

All i can say about the tier 8 BF-109s is... they NEED those underwing cannons.
They just do because the standard MG and ONE cannon is just not enough (especially in arcade).

As for A bombs... there is really NO place for them in this game.
Really.
Maybe in a historical/AltHistorical battle where one team tries to deter american bombers from slaughtering tens of thousands unsuspecting civilians.

[ukulele]

As everything, make a big distintion between arcade and the other modes. Under wing cannons are a bad choice 90% of the times in historical, a single 20mm is enough to kill any fighter fast enough and the extra weight and overall decrease in performance will make your nice 109 lose its only advantage wich is climb rate. Bombs have the exact same effect, specialy on planes built to BnZ, if you dont have superior energy its hard(even imposible) to energy fight, and bombs and extra equipment are the n1 enemys to climb rate and energy retention.

[Naryar]

So yeah, I've been having my first experience with both 37mm gun Stukas.

Herp derp, can't aim properly

Herp derp, got tailed by a fighter and downed in a few hits.

Herp derp, bomber's faster than me.

Herp derp, must reload.

Herp derp... wait, did I just ripped a wing off that bomber in 2 shots ?

But yeah, they're pretty much bomber hunters and nothing else. They don't seem to be good as their intended role, not as well as bomb planes.

[sluissa]

At the moment they have a very hard time penetrating any sort of armor on ground units, but I have a feeling that might change with the release of more detailed ground units.

[Sonlirain]

Wing cannons don't add THAT much weight.
And even then the added inertia can help you climb faster after a dive
And they triple your firepower as well.

Sure in historical you can run with machineguns and actually kill something with those but in arcade those cannons are pretty much essential because come planes can just eat german 20 mm shells like nothing before finally exploding like a firecracker into a cloud of parts after meeting a single russian 37 mm shell.

[RedKing]

So the Ground Forces HQ mission of the day is 40/8/4 kills with biplanes. All glory to the motherland!

Indeed. I-153 all day, erry day.
Though I might trot out my Furys and Gladiators. They're decent biplanes.

Pity the fool who tries to get that with He 51s.

[sluissa]

I used the 51s for a little while today. I had some success. The good part is that since everyone's flying, for the most part, reserve aircraft, they're not really flying careful. They're flying sloppy, and reckless in an attempt to get every last kill they can. It's easy to take advantage of that fact although you'll ultimately end up getting fewer kills than those people, you can still rack them up.

[sluissa]

Sorry about the double post but.... 80 kills?! That's like what they ask over the course of a weekend and give 2-4 achievements for. Except this time it's just one and it's just 24 hours. I really feel like they're trying to make me burn out on this game before the tanks get here so I won't even want to play it even if I do get into the closed beta. 100 kills over the weekend, 40 kills yesterday, another 80 today.

War thunder, you ask too much of me.

[Naryar]

lol 80 kills in one day, what are they asking, that we give our life to WT ?

Are these ground mission HQ missions even worth it ? Do they give good total XP, country XP and good silver lions ?

[sluissa]

They do give decent silver lions, and they say they give XP but if I'm understanding it correctly, they give you free xp which you have to convert with gold eagles to the nation of your choice. Still, not decent enough to be worth it, just decent enough to say "oh, well that's nice" if I do happen to finish one.

[Flying Dice]

The real point of them is that supposedly they're selecting people for the ground forces closed beta based on how much progress you make on them.

[Naryar]

Talking of closed beta... now we must fork over 100 euros to enter ? Is Gaijin even serious ?

Also, just shot down 2 beaufighters with my stukas today, in one game. Feelsgoodman.png

That feeling when you fly over them, descend upon the unsuspecting prey, get on their tails and then just SHOOT.

[qurvax]

an hour ago CBT on ground forces got official "GO"
Epic whine on russian forums included

http://vimeo.com/80399893

[10ebbor10]

Talking of closed beta... now we must fork over 100 euros to enter ? Is Gaijin even serious ?

Also, just shot down 2 beaufighters with my stukas today, in one game. Feelsgoodman.png

That feeling when you fly over them, descend upon the unsuspecting prey, get on their tails and then just SHOOT.

Nope, you can buy your way into the second round closed beta if you pay that much.

[sluissa]

Yeah, as much as I feel like it's a money grab, I don't fault them for it. They gave everyone a free way to do things, and with enough patience, we'll all get it eventually anyway. If they can earn some money by letting people into the beta, hey that's to their benefit.