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[Iceblaster]

So apparently I'm an S-COM agent now?

(C-COM woulda made much more sense guise)

OOC: CoraiUnki: Also, Wymar was best security
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OOC: CoraiUnki: (tactical jumpsuit + pirate cap best uniform)

If I remember correctly, S-COM came from when I, Mag, and Corai were fucking around(But really Mag and Corai... and some other guys) and the station ended up getting flooded with spiders and then S-COM was born.

[Darvi]

Shoulda known the bastard-bro was involved.

[Eagle_eye]

BS12 Virology is really. Fucking. Dangerous. Not only there are two symptoms which cause you to DIE the moment they set in (via gibbing and suicide, respectively), but here's the kicker: BS12 viruses can NOT be cured with chemicals. You can only cure them using antibodies, and making those is substantially more time-consuming (not harder, just more time-consuming) and, since the machines are non-constructable, you can be particularly vicious as a traitor and bomb the centrifuge for an uncurable disease.

As we learned last round, massive doses of radium also work, if you don't mind ridiculous toxin damage.

[MrWillsauce]

My favorite feature of Baycode so far is that you can fit stupidly large objects in your ears.

[Darvi]

* Darvi shoves a wheel of cheese into his ears.

WHAT? I DIDN'T HEAR YOU, CAN YOU REPEAT THAT FOR ME?

[scrdest]

My favorite feature of Baycode so far is that you can fit stupidly large objects in your ears.

It's mostly silly oversights, probably related to being able to put stuff in labcoats.

[Nick K]

As we learned last round, massive doses of radium also work, if you don't mind ridiculous toxin damage.

If you're referring to the round I was in (where the disease turned people into monkeys), then no they don't.

I was the skrell who took the radium to be cured, thinking it would be similar to tg's poisoning where you just chug some chems and get over the side effects. That's doesn't seem to be the case in bay.
The poison appeared to stay in my system pretty much forever. I was the chemist and was able to consume hundreds of units of anti-tox and hyronalin but my round was effectively crippled anyway. I could barely move because the vomiting from radiation kept my hunger level in red and would paralyze me when it happened - similar to tg's appendicitis. Plus, I kept getting massive spikes of tox damage.
This lasted for a long time. Certainly long enough for people to go from initial infection to becoming monkeys while I was tied to the chem dispenser making pills for myself over and over. Eventually I got hit with a particularly bad spike and died so fast that no-one was able to help me despite this being in the chem lab and a borg seeing me fall over and calling for help on the radio before I even entered crit.

Realistically, you would be better off advising people to kill themselves and be cloned rather than take radium. It will probably come to the same thing anyway and will get them back to playing much faster. It's a shame Bay doesn't appear to have tg's upgraded autocloner.

Looking at the wiki, the correct procedure seems to be to infect a monkey, give it radium, then get antibodies from it when it's cured (and presumably breed them in the virology machine if you can)

[scrdest]

Not exactly. You do not need to cure them, just make them produce antibodies. By the way, the toxin spikes were, precisely, you developping antibodies and having a cytokine storm, hence toxins.

[Spacefaye]

Someone spawned 3 Singularities by throwing a bag of holding into one in /tg/station 13.

[Glloyd]

BS12 Virology is really. Fucking. Dangerous. Not only there are two symptoms which cause you to DIE the moment they set in (via gibbing and suicide, respectively), but here's the kicker: BS12 viruses can NOT be cured with chemicals. You can only cure them using antibodies, and making those is substantially more time-consuming (not harder, just more time-consuming) and, since the machines are non-constructable, you can be particularly vicious as a traitor and bomb the centrifuge for an uncurable disease.

Speaking of virology, there's a PR up on BS12 to give it a facelift and make it a bit more user friendly.

http://baystation12.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9941

[scrdest]

BS12 Virology is really. Fucking. Dangerous. Not only there are two symptoms which cause you to DIE the moment they set in (via gibbing and suicide, respectively), but here's the kicker: BS12 viruses can NOT be cured with chemicals. You can only cure them using antibodies, and making those is substantially more time-consuming (not harder, just more time-consuming) and, since the machines are non-constructable, you can be particularly vicious as a traitor and bomb the centrifuge for an uncurable disease.

Speaking of virology, there's a PR up on BS12 to give it a facelift and make it a bit more user friendly.

http://baystation12.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9941

It's just some graphics tweaks and genocide.

[Isdar]

BS12 Virology is really. Fucking. Dangerous. Not only there are two symptoms which cause you to DIE the moment they set in (via gibbing and suicide, respectively), but here's the kicker: BS12 viruses can NOT be cured with chemicals. You can only cure them using antibodies, and making those is substantially more time-consuming (not harder, just more time-consuming) and, since the machines are non-constructable, you can be particularly vicious as a traitor and bomb the centrifuge for an uncurable disease.

Speaking of virology, there's a PR up on BS12 to give it a facelift and make it a bit more user friendly.

http://baystation12.net/forums/viewtopic.php?f=18&t=9941

It's just some graphics tweaks and genocide.

Graphic tweaks and genocide makes everything 100 % more user friendly.

[Erils]

Haven't been on this thread for a bit so this is bringing up an old topic (AI harm-Asimov), but I just wanted to try and justify some aspects. I'll put it in spoilers so people who don't care don't have to look at it.

Spoiler: Can AI's harm people? (click to show/hide)

All I saw was attempted murder, an evil cult and a dead captain.

Get suffocated, evil person. :u

Unless you were non-asimov.... cult is still people

But if you read Asimov's "I Robot" you will see that robots can 'break' the first law in order to save more lives. The robots with Asimov's laws are able to allow the harm of or harm a human, if it prevents or might prevent the harming of more humans. Based on that, even asimov AI's can still harm or even kill traitors, syndicates, cultists, wizards and death squads if it would save more human lives in the end.

Actually, In I Robot it is explicitly stated that robots can cause a small amount of harm to humans to prevent a greater amount of harm. A robot could ram into a human, maybe breaking a few ribs, to prevent that human from being crushed by a rock. Killing humans, however, is not a small amount of harm and thus unacceptable.

In the story "Little Lost Robot" while they are trying to find one of the NS-2 "Nestor" robots that has hidden itself, they carry out a test. The test involves dropping a heavy stone onto a human and killing them (the robots don't know but the stone is rigged to stop). The room is filled radiation and the robots are told that, they will be unable to save the person and, should they try, will only destroy themselves which might prevent them from saving more humans in the future. When the rock is dropped, all the robots stay still (except the NS-2 as he could sense the radiation was harmless) even though they all (except the NS-2) had newtons 3 laws programmed into them without any alterations.
Based on that, an asimovian AI should be allowed to let a human die, or even kill them, if it might save the lives of future humans.

[Nick K]

In the story "Little Lost Robot" while they are trying to find one of the NS-2 "Nestor" robots that has hidden itself, they carry out a test. The test involves dropping a heavy stone onto a human and killing them (the robots don't know but the stone is rigged to stop). The room is filled radiation and the robots are told that, they will be unable to save the person and, should they try, will only destroy themselves which might prevent them from saving more humans in the future. When the rock is dropped, all the robots stay still (except the NS-2 as he could sense the radiation was harmless) even though they all (except the NS-2) had newtons 3 laws programmed into them without any alterations.
Based on that, an asimovian AI should be allowed to let a human die, or even kill them, if it might save the lives of future humans.[spoiler]

Except, I thought that in the story the asimov robots are only able to stay still because they 'knew' that the radiation would stop them preventing harm to the human and so they couldn't actually help them. That's not the same as letting a human die when then believe they could prevent it. If they'd been told that they'd be destroyed but would be able to prevent harm to the human in the process then presumably they'd have sacrificed themselves

[Aklyon]

You forgot a slash in your tags, Erils.