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[Owlbread]

Max, I'm going to get angry at that on MonkeyHead's behalf. I'll also take a note of it because it's probably the single best Welsh-trolling line I've ever seen, not that I'd engage in such dastardly activities. Cough.

It wasn't until like 3 weeks ago I stopped getting Scotland and Ireland mixed up on a map!

When I was growing up I could never, ever, ever understand why in the name of Satan, Crom Dubh, Tartarus and dead baby wombats folk abroad kept mistaking Scotland for Ireland. I could not fathom it. I barely can to this day. To me at that age it was like France and China, we are so different. It just didn't make sense. It was even worse when they confused the accents - like a Jamaican accent being mistaken with an accent from Maine or something.

[Max White]

Eh, I grew up in Wales, or at least the updated southern version of it, I think that justifies a Welsh baiting license. 

[Chaoswizkid]

When I was growing up I could never, ever, ever understand why in the name of Satan, Crom Dubh, Tartarus and dead baby wombats folk abroad kept mistaking Scotland for Ireland. I could not fathom it. I barely can to this day. To me at that age it was like France and China, we are so different. It just didn't make sense. It was even worse when they confused the accents - like a Jamaican accent being mistaken with an accent from Maine or something.

Were most people who did this from the US? Most of us don't even know which of the 50 states are where. Hell, I still sometimes get mixed up with the west even though they're just large blocks. Just never really cared enough to sit down and memorize them. I bet a lot of Americans aren't even sure if the UK is an island or not. We learn the continents, their general shapes, the shape of the US and the 50 states (and then promptly forget them because it's a hassle to memorize). European geography? Please. I'd best most Americans know that Scotland and Ireland are around the UK (Yes, the UK, because UK = Great Britain = Britain = England. It's interchangeable, right?), and there's two islands there, so one is the UK and the other is... both Scotland and Ireland? Sometimes Wales is mentioned or the Celts because movies, but who the fuck knows if that's even real? There's only two islands, you can't juggle like 6 different countries between them, that's just weird and hard to remember.
The thing with the accents is because Scotch-Irish is a thing in the States, and regardless of what that actually means in terms of history and accent, what it obviously means is that Scottish and Irish accents are similar, yeah? Because there's a thing with both of them together. They don't sound French, they don't sound Mexican (Spain exists, but do they really even speak Spanish? Do they have brown skin, too?), they don't sound *Eastern European* (Start at Belgium and Luxembourg, and go North and East through Scandinavia, Switzerland and Germany until you hit Russia, then go south to Greece and east to the rest of Russia. They all sound about the same, yeah?), they don't sound Indian and they don't sound Asian. The closest thing they're to is probably that silly British accent and their difficulty to spell words correctly. They aren't British though, so... Scotch-Irish?
It also doesn't help that we're not exposed nearly enough to the accents so we can't really differentiate. When all our memory is working on is some person we heard on TV like 5 months ago and you sound like you're from around Britain but you're not British... Scotch-Irish?

[Max White]

I like this kid, casual racism has never been so informing.

[Steeled]

When I was growing up I could never, ever, ever understand why in the name of Satan, Crom Dubh, Tartarus and dead baby wombats folk abroad kept mistaking Scotland for Ireland. I could not fathom it. I barely can to this day. To me at that age it was like France and China, we are so different. It just didn't make sense. It was even worse when they confused the accents - like a Jamaican accent being mistaken with an accent from Maine or something.

[Those words that you did said.]

When you're American, you ain't gotta learn about unimportant places like UK. The two main imports would probably be Gorden Ramsey and Irish whiskey. To the average American the UK is probably on the same level as Cuba, or maybe if you're lucky someone will rate you higher than poland.

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What I'm saying is that you need to do cooler shit. like you were doing 100 years ago.

[Mr. Strange]

We're talking about England here, right? That's the bigger island next to Ireland, and northern half of it is called Scotland (because there used to be country by that name in middle ages in there) and the southern half is where British people live, right?

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Wales, what whales?

[Dutchling]

England is Cornwall's dick right?

[Guardian G.I.]

Suddenly, Russian state television is broadcasting very strong-worded anti-Western propaganda films. I haven't seen more severe accusations being thrown on Russian television ever. Comparing liberal opposition activists with Vlasov's collaborators, implying that their supporters are potential traitors and openly accusing the United States of America of inciting ethnic hatred in the Soviet Union and Russia is a very bold move. I'd even say it's an unprecedented one. They are reciting things that were only circulated in marginalized patriotic sources a mere decade ago.

A few days ago, Margarita Simonyan, the chief editor of RT and the new Russian state news agency Russia Today stated during President Putin's interview in Sochi that Russian national policies should be set in such a way that people living in Russia should identify themselves as citizens of the multinational Russian state first and foremost, and that their national identity should not take priority over it. Putin agreed with her. I wonder if these two events are related.

[Mr. Strange]

...people living in Russia should identify themselves as citizens of the multinational Russian state first and foremost, and that their national identity should not take priority over it. Putin agreed with her.

Replace "Russia" with "Soviet Union" and "Putin" with "Stalin" and what do you get?

Hint:

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Last time it ended with genoside.

[LordSlowpoke]

replace stalin with hitler and soviet union with nazi germany and you get a godwin

i have no idea why it wasn't extended to other dictators that have been involved in genocide yet

[Mictlantecuhtli]

replace stalin with hitler and soviet union with nazi germany and you get a godwin

i have no idea why it wasn't extended to other dictators that have been involved in genocide yet

Lol, anyways

[Ukrainian Ranger]

replace stalin with hitler and soviet union with nazi germany and you get a godwin

Hitler never aimed to create a new nationality like "Third Reichian", While Stalin actively tried to create Soviet nation

[10ebbor10]

I dunno, Hitler was pretty adamant about the Aryan thingy. Only he worked by eliminating those who didn't fit his definitions, rather than making them fit.

[Descan]

Eh, it's not automatically that bad. I mean the U.K. is a mix of nationalities, and yes the Scottish want out (woo), but a good deal of people feel British, which is a supranational nationality. If... If that makes any sense.

And American is a supranational nationality, composed mostly of immigrants.

Of course, in one case it was a more natural development of the Act of Union, not anything really forced on people (encouraged, but not forced), and in the other it was because immigrants by their very nature want change and would be more likely to consider themselves American first-and-foremost. Not a forced change on a populace that doesn't have any reason to want that change, like Stalin and Sovietization.

[Guardian G.I.]

replace stalin with hitler and soviet union with nazi germany and you get a godwin

Hitler never aimed to create a new nationality like "Third Reichian", While Stalin actively tried to create Soviet nation

The idea of the Soviet nation as a conglomerate of formerly separate nations of the USSR isn't a unique one - many multinational empires (like the Roman and Byzantine Empires, for example) put the imperial national identity over the national identities of its residents and tried to unify its nationalities with various degrees of success.
Another notable attempt to unify culturally and religiously separate nationalities into a one nation living in a single state was Jozef Broz Tito's Socialist Federal Republic of Yugoslavia, which ultimately succumbed to ethnic strife and imploded a decade after the death of its architect.