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Derick the Swordmaster of Doom

Gregor the Tanky Stab-Sentinel

[Gamerboy4life]

Spoiler: DARK SOULS STUFF (click to show/hide)

I'm a hard guy to make rage, and I've gotten to the plague town place although not too far in however. Just where the scaffolding was and such. Gotta say, don't get that dragon sword, makes the beginning way too boring, killing the knights without planning ahead and pitch combat like I did the first time around was... Very, very lackluster. Really, everything was with that sword. I contemplated chucking it after I rung the first bell.

It helps that I'm a bit of a masochist for difficulty. :v

Spoiler: Dark Souls stuff in reply (click to show/hide)

Don't chuck it, I believe it makes quite a decent PVP weapon early on (If you're interested in going Forest Hunter or skipping a few areas to get to Darkwraith early), but other late-game weapons surpass it.

And are you describing Blighttown? The one with the heavy toxin/poison enemies, right? If so, you're already pretty far in the game.

Hey, by the way, Sirus: since there's been a lot of promotions, do you have sprites other than Tant for them? I think you said that once.

Didn't Sirius already make a new set? I remember seeing it, I think.

[freeformschooler]

Man I might have missed that. I remember he said he was saving the promoted set for when we actually, you know, did.

[Xanmyral]

If I recall, he made one for everyone and is indeed saving them for when we promote.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Spoiler: Dark Souls stuff. (click to show/hide)

I got lost after killing Sef, couldn't figure out where to go even with FAQS for like two weeks so I gave up on it. Not much of a PvP guy anyway and that seemed to be the main draw for the game from what I could tell. >.>

[Powder Miner]

No, there is no BSOD
He just doesn't know what to say to that.

[Gamerboy4life]

Spoiler: Dark Souls stuff. (click to show/hide)

I got lost after killing Sef, couldn't figure out where to go even with FAQS for like two weeks so I gave up on it. Not much of a PvP guy anyway and that seemed to be the main draw for the game from what I could tell. >.>

Spoiler: Thou hast traveled far, undead (click to show/hide)

To the Abyss. You got Aritoria's ring from the fight, which will allow you to traverse it safely to challenge the Four Kings.

You get there through the New Londo ruins which imho is a pain in the ass, having ghosts. I hate holy weapons and Transient Curses are too expensive.

UNLESS you merely beat Sif because he was in a relatively low-level area and I commend you for that because he's actually quite difficult. In that case, you need to hit Sen's/Anor Londo and get the Lordvessel from Guinevere, give it to Kaathe or Frampt to unlock Gwyn's fog gates, and then hit the abyss.

If I recall, he made one for everyone and is indeed saving them for when we promote.

Not all of us is going to get to promote before the end of the game, though.

Unless Haspen drops a ton of promote items on the last chapter or something, which seems unlikely.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

I never met Gwyn. As far as I'm aware the only things I did of note were ring the bell past the gargoyles and kill Sif. >.< I already traded the game in awhile back, though, so I guess it's of little consequence.

[Xanmyral]

No, there is no BSOD
He just doesn't know what to say to that.

I'll probably have Sal ramble or something then. Most likely tomorrow though sadly, sorry Powder.

Spoiler: Moar Dark Souls Stuff (click to show/hide)

Well, kinda. Never got too far into that forest place, and I hated those ghosts with a passion because I ran out of those curse items pretty darn early trying to kill them all. The ghosts aren't hard to kill, but they get through your shield something fierce and your weapon just goes right through them without the right items or weapons. All I remember of Plague Town is falling through some scaffolding, and accidentally killing an enemy by landing on him by doing a plunging attack. Had no idea there was a guy under me, just figured I'd do a plunging attack since I had fell through... Two? Three scaffolds? Saved me from dying of fall damage I think.

The PVP seemed kinda meh to me, because I'd either go up against someone horrendously stronger, or someone much weaker. Favorite fight was with a thief with a dagger and backstabbings, he completely killed me the first go around but the second time I gave him a run for his money due to overcrafted zwielhander because I was smarter about not presenting my back. Dude was pretty respectful, started the battle with a bow.

Personally the story and combat draws me in, the PVP seemed kinda boring since it struck me as 'have these types of items or lose(flippy ring, magic, etc)'. If I recall these are the same guys who do the AC games, and while you have to dig for the story yourself its usually worth it.

Well, either Riven or Edwin is getting the ring Salvatore has currently. We might be able to all promote, maybe, and if we can manage to finagle that whip for Ami that would help us along.

[Praefectus Screptum]

Talking about rings, who is getting the Hermes ring anyway? After all that beard joke I couldn't even guess who would take it.

[Xanmyral]

Up to Serious since Chris is the one who has it. Doesn't matter much to me who gets it, with a ring like that almost anyone's a good choice and we can always switch it off as the situation depends since its a wearable instead of a usable, so the choice would just be 'who's the guy who normally carries it' I believe.

[SeriousConcentrate]

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

AC? I know they did the King's Field games and those are fucking awesome. King's Field 2 (3 in Japan I believe; we got the Clock Tower thing where their 2 is our 1 and so forth) doesn't get enough love, in my opinion. The atmosphere, music, the story of that game were all great. I think there's a free fan remake using the Sword of Moonlight engine, but I could be wrong. I know there's one for the first King's Field (Japan, not King's Field 1 USA which, again, would be their 2. So annoying >.<) on the SoM engine.

Hell, I dunno. Who has the lowest SPD in the entire group?

OTOH, who could benefit from it the most? I could certainly double everyone with it, but I need at least one space open for looting purposes so I can't keep it. I might put my Poison Dagger in storage for the same reason.

[Gamerboy4life]

Spoiler: Moar Dark Souls Stuff (click to show/hide)

Well, kinda. Never got too far into that forest place, and I hated those ghosts with a passion because I ran out of those curse items pretty darn early trying to kill them all. The ghosts aren't hard to kill, but they get through your shield something fierce and your weapon just goes right through them without the right items or weapons. All I remember of Plague Town is falling through some scaffolding, and accidentally killing an enemy by landing on him by doing a plunging attack. Had no idea there was a guy under me, just figured I'd do a plunging attack since I had fell through... Two? Three scaffolds? Saved me from dying of fall damage I think.

The PVP seemed kinda meh to me, because I'd either go up against someone horrendously stronger, or someone much weaker. Favorite fight was with a thief with a dagger and backstabbings, he completely killed me the first go around but the second time I gave him a run for his money due to overcrafted zwielhander because I was smarter about not presenting my back. Dude was pretty respectful, started the battle with a bow.

Personally the story and combat draws me in, the PVP seemed kinda boring since it struck me as 'have these types of items or lose(flippy ring, magic, etc)'. If I recall these are the same guys who do the AC games, and while you have to dig for the story yourself its usually worth it.

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Well, PVP is fun for me, which is why I do Forest Hunter, despite all the estus-using-gankers.

To get good at PVP you need to learn how to bide your time and pick mistakes from the enemy. It doesn't matter what build you are (Unless you're a shit-eating-dark-magic using sorcerer) you can win a fight at SL 60-80 against someone SL 100+. You just can't take chances on a whim, and that's one of the points Dark Souls tries to drive into your head with a thick spike. You need patience. If you have patience, skill, and a little luck, you can succeed.

Unless the other person is a shit-eating-dark-magic-user who uses Estus and has a retinue of phantom fatties

But the story is another redeeming quality of Dark Souls. If you want, you can completely skip it and pay attention to "Go here" and "Bring that to there", or you can watch the cutscenes, listen to the dialogue with the characters, and gain insight into the world of Lordran through item descriptions, etc.

Up to Serious since Chris is the one who has it. Doesn't matter much to me who gets it, with a ring like that almost anyone's a good choice and we can always switch it off as the situation depends since its a wearable instead of a usable, so the choice would just be 'who's the guy who normally carries it' I believe.

It's not single use?

I never knew that.

[freeformschooler]

The people who could mathematically benefit the most are those in the 10 12 spd range. Not only do they have multipple enemies who can double them in recent chapters that would not with the ring but being pushed from 10 12 to 15 17 would give them many more opportunities to double where last chapter they had none or almost none.

[Sirus]

Hey, by the way, Sirus: since there's been a lot of promotions, do you have sprites other than Tant for them? I think you said that once.

I've posted a few and they're in the fanart section. I have one for everyone except Edwin and Raquel (blame lack of motivation). Has someone promoted and I didn't notice?

[Xanmyral]

Spoiler: Answer for SC and Gamer (click to show/hide)

AC == Armor Core, a game that will forever have a special spot in my heart. Sadly, it isn't for the computer so all I can do is weep bitter tears of sadness. And plot in the dark...

PvP wasn't horrible for me, but the first few guys I came up against was one guy with a sword and a whip (didn't last long as even with my strongest weapon I could only just barely dent his health(even with a backstab, no less)), and some magic guy who keep trying to grab me until he succeeded and did... Something, not sure. He backstabbed and killed me afterwards.

Worst time was when I was the aggressor though, funny enough. Hid by that one giant golem boss in the chapel in that one place with the first bell, boxed this guy in with some other spirit with the boss due to fog wall, hid until they fought said boss. Backstabbed his ghost friend while he was getting whacked by the boss, then lazily stabbed at the main dude until I got bored and backstabbed him. Felt like a jackass for a while because of how... Cruel it was really, because it wasn't a fair PVP fight. Stopped PVPing after that really.

Also the trend of 'try to backstab' was bleh to me.

Lowest SPD would be Alexander I believe.

The thing is, SPD is a hilariously important stat in this game by sheer dent of being able to double attack people, or being double attacked. So that ring can help anyone really, either to let a speedy guy double attack an equally speedy guy or to let a slower guy not be double attacked.

Essentially, it would bring Tant up to the rest of the party SPD wise, which would prevent him from being doubled and perhaps even doubling some of the more slower enemies we face. With Alexander, it would prevent him from being doubled by everyone really, his speed is low enough that he probably wouldn't be able to double anyone. Same with Salvatore. Those are the main three with the lowest speed really, but I see that ring being passed around to let other people double instead of remaining static, so whoever has it would only have it unless it was needed elsewhere more presently.

So really, it should either be passed to someone to prevent them from being doubled, or for someone to double another guy, and there is no way I see that ring going static because of that.