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[XXSockXX]

I will restate this point:  what reactions have you seen?

There is a bit of a media outrage, it's at least mentioned everywhere. Newspapers are accusing Obama of double standards regarding freedom vs safety. Big newssites had headlines like Big Brother Obama and Obama - Americas highest-ranking spy.
Political response is rather measured. The government denies knowing about it, the ministry of justice and the ministry for consumer protection demand investigations, it's gonna be talked about in parliament and in diplomatic talks with the US. Media is speculating wether our secret servive had access to PRISM data or not.
There's not really a popular outrage, internet-savy people saw this coming or suspected it (US companies like Facebook are data-hungry anyway), the rest doesn't know what it's about and doesn't care.

[Scoops Novel]

Anonymous had gained some lasting credibility out of this, even if not mentioned in the media. One wonder's how they're getting around the surveillance.

[Bauglir]

Surveillance doesn't stop people from committing crimes, it just punishes them later. They'll have a scapegoat "hacker" for this in a couple of weeks, I'm sure.

[misko27]

Surveillance doesn't stop people from committing crimes, it just punishes them later. They'll have a scapegoat "hacker" for this in a couple of weeks, I'm sure.

Scapegoat maybe, Hacker no. They, as anyone could tell you, are now very serious about finding out how this stuff got out. Whoever it was, he'll be hunted down and prosecuted.

[Bauglir]

And whoever they pin it on will be called a hacker (hence the quotation marks). It doesn't matter how that person made it happen. They're associated with Anonymous, so that's the label that will be applied. Alternatively, I may have entirely misinterpreted your post.

[palsch]

Wait, how are they going to attack Anonymous for leaking publicly available files?

[Loud Whispers]

Surveillance doesn't stop people from committing crimes, it just punishes them later. They'll have a scapegoat "hacker" for this in a couple of weeks, I'm sure.

Scapegoat maybe, Hacker no. They, as anyone could tell you, are now very serious about finding out how this stuff got out. Whoever it was, he'll be hunted down and prosecuted.

Reminds me of the supposed 'lulzsec' member who was just a guy who hosted an IRC that lulzsec used. A dangerous thing about British media is that they'll always cite their source as an 'official' of some sort, never named. So they can say to reporters they've caught a hacker and face no backlash when the obvious lie is found out. But by then, the damage is well and truly done.

[Bauglir]

Wait, how are they going to attack Anonymous for leaking publicly available files?

OK, that is actually hilarious.

'We exposed this great evil!'
'the 'great evil' exposed itself ages ago'

Welp.

[Sheb]

Well, they also claim to have hacked into PRISM and dled Obama's Skype conversation.


Seriously, Obama is on Skype? And his conversations are available to any NSA clerk?

Well, methink Anonymous is pulling stuff out of their asses. Together with the realease of public document, it's really ridiculous.

[palsch]

Well, they also claim to have hacked into PRISM and dled Obama's Skype conversation.


Seriously, Obama is on Skype? And his conversations are available to any NSA clerk?

Well, methink Anonymous is pulling stuff out of their asses. Together with the realease of public document, it's really ridiculous.

In that case I think we can blame the source.

[freeformschooler]

Well, they also claim to have hacked into PRISM and dled Obama's Skype conversation.


Seriously, Obama is on Skype? And his conversations are available to any NSA clerk?

Well, methink Anonymous is pulling stuff out of their asses. Together with the realease of public document, it's really ridiculous.

I hope this is real. That would be hilarious.

[Loud Whispers]

Well, methink Anonymous is pulling stuff out of their asses. Together with the realease of public document, it's really ridiculous.

There is Anonymous, the state of being a part of the collective unknown. Then there is the group, which came in three waves.
First wave Anonymous were made up of Oldfriends who built totally unrestricted free speech ideals, where nothing was taboo'd enough to warrant use and abuse. Non extant, but there are groups who seek to revive this wave. Can be summed up in Oprah vs over 9000 penises.
Second wave Anonymous were made up of Anons who did that, but instead of targeting opportunities, they targeted establishments against liberties - most famously of course being battletoads vs Scientology.
Third wave Anonymous is made up of everyone and your Aunt and cares about being a blob of social justice warriors, can can be summed up by people using Guy Fawkes' mask without knowing what is the significance of being a Catholic terrorist trying to blow up a newly founded democracy to install papacy.

[Sheb]

Yeah, it's everyone and their grandma. That, together with the swift answer from the White House press secretary make me wonder if it's the government passing for Anonymous to ridiculize them. A strawman if you want.


EDIT:Oooops, didn't notice it came from a stupid website. Never mind.

[Loud Whispers]

Could be. Wouldn't have been the first time a world government organisation has pretended to be Anonymous, but it doesn't really matter much though, given the usually unverifiable nature of such claims. Essentially, just replace 'Anonymous' with 'someone.' It carries that much weight.

[palsch]

Yeah, it's everyone and their grandma. That, together with the swift answer from the White House press secretary make me wonder if it's the government passing for Anonymous to ridiculize them. A strawman if you want.

Wait, the White House responded to anything from Anonymous? Do you have a link?

The major leaks look to be from someone from inside the NSA directly to the Guardian (specifically Glenn Greenwald) and WaPo, not hacks by any outside group or even filtered through something like Wikileaks. All the statements and criticism of the leaks I've seen have been consistent with this. Only the low quality of the information leaves any uncertainty about this.