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Total Members Voted: 107

[Sheb]

No, it was in my link from Stupid Internet, before I saw you've shown it was from Stupid Internet.

[palsch]

Breaking: Identity of leaker revealed.

A former CIA technical worker has been identified by the UK's Guardian newspaper as the source of leaks about US surveillance programmes.

Edward Snowden, 29, is described the the paper as an ex-CIA technical assistant and a current worker for a defence contractor.

The Guardian said his identity was being revealed at his own request.

BBC initial story, so that page will change a lot over time. Guardian article here.

He's apparently 'holed up' in Hong Kong. Not really my hiding place of choice, especially given the timing.

[Sheb]

They do seem to have an extradition treaty with the US. But I'm not sure what charge they could lay on him that would get him extradited.

[Scoops Novel]

The guardian's live updates on reactions and new information since the news. http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2013/jun/09/nsa-secret-surveillance-lawmakers-live

[GlyphGryph]

What's a better place for him to have been than Hong Kong?

[Zangi]

They do seem to have an extradition treaty with the US. But I'm not sure what charge they could lay on him that would get him extradited.

Lots of technical details/jargon that can be freely interpreted?  One of em will probably stick.  Maybe a 'I'll throw a little extra something in for ya' to give some motivation/pressure.

[Sheb]

You can't really bribe China into giving up the guy. I don't know, if I were him, I'd have gone to Venezuela probably.

[Scelly9]

You can't really bribe China into giving up the guy. I don't know, if I were him, I'd have gone to Venezuela probably.

Well, he kinda betrayed the CIA. I feel if he goes into hiding he's going to "disappear" pretty damn fast. His best bet is staying as public as possible, at the moment.

[misko27]

What's a better place for him to have been than Hong Kong?

Arguably, the only place where it would be totally safe from the US is a rogue anti-western state, (NK, Syria, and Iran for example.) China, Russia, etc. have to much invested in not pissing the US off over Trivial things. He certainly would never be gotten to leave if not under his own power. The Problem of being a former NSA official in a Anti-western Rogue country.So, maybe, Space? No.

I guess there is no safe place from the US Government and/or Vengeful Anti-western Governments.

[XXSockXX]

I don't know if China would extradict him. The US doesn't extradict chinese dissidents either.
Even if they do, he is on the spotlight now, there would have to be a trial, no chance they could make him "disappear".

[Scelly9]

I don't know if China would extradict him. The US doesn't extradict chinese dissidents either.
Even if they do, he is on the spotlight now, there would have to be a trial, no chance they could make him "disappear".

I mean if he tries to run to a non-extraditing country. If they can't get him out of the country, they can't have a trial, and if he lets the attention die down, they could safely get rid of him in a year without anyone really caring.

[misko27]

Well it is true that the US doesn't extradite Dissidents, that because they are Generally being Sought for Other "crimes". The US has here someone who actually leaked something, not a Dissident, and therefore someone who actually violated a law (one the Chinese would sympathize with). However, The point could be made, and so we wait It's also possible, of course, the Chinese might find a "use" for a former NSA official unprotected by the US. I would not want to be where he is, that is for sure.

I don't know if China would extradict him. The US doesn't extradict chinese dissidents either.
Even if they do, he is on the spotlight now, there would have to be a trial, no chance they could make him "disappear".

I mean if he tries to run to a non-extraditing country. If they can't get him out of the country, they can't have a trial, and if he lets the attention die down, they could safely get rid of him in a year without anyone really caring.

They have also brought people back to the US to stand trial you know. They don't always kill people.

[Sheb]

I don't know, I don't think it's common to extradite spies.

[Loud Whispers]

You can't really bribe China into giving up the guy. I don't know, if I were him, I'd have gone to Venezuela probably.

Well, he kinda betrayed the CIA. I feel if he goes into hiding he's going to "disappear" pretty damn fast. His best bet is staying as public as possible, at the moment.

It is known he has epilepsy. I'm rather worried he's going to die from a seizure.

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The general response makes me hurt.

[Sheb]

Yeah, especially since he's been working for Booz Allen Hamilton since 2009. -_-'