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[Rolepgeek]

And we're still getting out butts kicked.

It's because we have almost no spell casting ability, isn't it? Dragon fire adept, factotum, and paladin are the only ones able to cast spells, paladins and factotums only being secondary casters. A Druid might be fun...

[tryrar]

Yeah, I had wondered why nobody was playing a straight caster, they're very useful in general and particularly when you need to bombard areas with long range spells 

[Rolepgeek]

Actually, better idea. Fuckin' warlock it up in this place.

See the Unseen, bitch.

[Darvi]

That would indeed be useful. Maybe spider climb to evade traps too.

[Rolepgeek]

...no. Fell Flight. And Walk Unseen. Because awesome.

[Darvi]

They can fly?

I should refresh my invocations sometimes...

[Rolepgeek]

I don't know about dragon fire adepts or whatever. I just know that walk unseen plus fell flight plus lurker on the fringes/stony grasp= trolling.

[Doomblade187]

Just upgrade Oso, then?

[Rolepgeek]

Continuity!

[GreatWyrmGold]

I don't know about dragon fire adepts or whatever. I just know that walk unseen plus fell flight plus lurker on the fringes/stony grasp= trolling.

Stick to Earthen Grasp--you can cast invocations at will, you don't need to worry about durability of the hand--the only difference. And there really are better things to be spending your greater invocations on.

[Rolepgeek]

Lesser. And yes I know it makes little difference, save for the part where I'm fairly certain these dungeon walls aren't dirt.

[Darvi]

I wonder if you can run while tumbling. Would the entire movement be halved (essentially equaling a double move)? I don't think so, but I'm not really sure about it.

[tryrar]

....hmmm, I'm not sure either...

It doesn't say you CAN'T, so I'm assuming this is up to the DM. I'll rule yes he can

[GreatWyrmGold]

Lesser. And yes I know it makes little difference, save for the part where I'm fairly certain these dungeon walls aren't dirt.

Oh. I didn't realize that was a needed difference.
...Carry on.

Oh, and germania: If possible, enjoy wherever you're being sent. If you live anywhere north of about Virginia, it's hard to get worse this time of year...let alone if you're a Midwesterner or something.

[germaina]

West coaster for now.