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[wierd]

I will test when I go home tonight.

I have seen similar wackery that is less repeatable with contaminated floors (soil type contaminants, like "silty clay", not "mud") having constructions placed on top, followed by removal, creating tiles of "furrowed silty clay" as a semi common occurance, but not 100%.

Leaving the tiles of furrowed silty clay does yeild moss growth, and investigation shows it does indeed change the tile material type.  Probably a bug in material assignment on the stack, when trying to preserve the previous tile identity for recovery after removing the construction.

(Eg, the real stack would be (natural stone tile material)->(contaminant pile material)->(constructed wall/floor material), but because the restore stack only stores one material type, it stores the contaminant material, if it is a valid stone or soil type, and not the natural stone type.

It's been awhile since I tested that though. It could have been fixed in the minecart release.

There were some conditions where it didn't seem to work, such as over gemstone floors, or metal ore floors. This is probably because of the vein information.

[crekit]

Sand or dye in bags doesn't get erased while the bag does, creating a small pile of sand or dye on the ground. Similarly, contaminants (eg blood, vomit) are not erased when a bridge descends on them.

DF wiki quote!

No, I mean, can I gather it? Because that would be kinda awesome, never caring about embarking on a place with sand again ever.

[wierd]

If it grows moss, then yes, you can collect with an activity zone, as long as you keep the moss off.

An interesting trick I noticed is that you can drop the activity zone, then put a farm plot on top. This will allow collection, and prevent moss growth.

[crekit]

If it grows moss, then yes, you can collect with an activity zone, as long as you keep the moss off.

An interesting trick I noticed is that you can drop the activity zone, then put a farm plot on top. This will allow collection, and prevent moss growth.

Or floor grates. But yeah, I still want tests xD

Edit: I mean, with SO many people constantly looking for sand in their embarks, I would think this would be better known!

[Gentlefish]

I'll test this right now. I've got a fort and a few extra sand bags to smash.

[Urist McDruid]

I too will test this. For ‼Science‼

[Gentlefish]

Nope. Smashing a sandbag does indeed destroy the sand.

[Urist McDruid]

I may have done it wrong, but it did not work for me. Will wait for others to post actuall methods.

my seven dwarves who partook in this mission died honorably. One was sent to dig into the magma, in search of candy, and the others were squashed into the ground they tried to change. except for one dwarf, who was pulling the lever. He managed to get hit by a flying Yak, bruising the muscle and jamming the brain through the skull.

[Jimmy]

Method for increasing sand on maps: get rid of all soil types in the raws except for one sand, two clays and ooze for the oceans. Presto, most embarks will have sand.

[crekit]

DAWWWWWWWWWwww. Okay tho, thanks for testing ^_^

[Larix]

Dumping the sand out of a sand bag will create "a small pile of <colour> sand" on the dump plot, and this pile is immune to atomsmashing, but it will still not change the floor type and is unusable for sand collection.

If you want to make glass on a sandless map, the only implemented way is to buy sand bags from the traders (well, and digging for rock crystals so you can make crystal glass). You can order additional sand from the dwarven caravan, and the resulting increased prices will only apply to the sand (base price one dwarfbuck). You won't be able to equip a hundred traps with six large serrated glass discs each, but for stuff like magma-proof pump parts and floodgates, it's easily sufficient.

[crekit]

Dumping the sand out of a sand bag will create "a small pile of <colour> sand" on the dump plot, and this pile is immune to atomsmashing, but it will still not change the floor type and is unusable for sand collection.

If you want to make glass on a sandless map, the only implemented way is to buy sand bags from the traders (well, and digging for rock crystals so you can make crystal glass). You can order additional sand from the dwarven caravan, and the resulting increased prices will only apply to the sand (base price one dwarfbuck). You won't be able to equip a hundred traps with six large serrated glass discs each, but for stuff like magma-proof pump parts and floodgates, it's easily sufficient.

:< what about studding every bolt I make with green glass gems. That's necessary.

[Urist McDruid]

:< what about studding every bolt I make with green glass gems. That's necessary.

Indeed, this is ever so necessary.

[Psieye]

Method for increasing sand on maps: get rid of all soil types in the raws except for one sand, two clays and ooze for the oceans. Presto, most embarks will have sand.

I prefer the other direction: set every soil type as [SAND].

[jellsprout]

I think you can create sand and other soil tiles by building constructions on magma flow tiles and then removing it. I haven't tried this myself, so I don't know if the created tile is entirely random or if it is based on the embark.