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[GreatWyrmGold]

7/10, too sad, obv Hamlet ripoff, also giving yours a lower rating makes mine look better

U MEAN ITS CALLED INSPRATON
But seriously, I wasn't thinking about Hamlet at all when I was writing this. I barely even know Hamlet's plot. There's a guy who kills himself or something after killing another guy.

You forgot about the skull bit. That's like the most important part. :v
Except not really. I don't think. Maybe. Braining is hard.

Two quick questions. One: Are you serious? Two: Would you be interested in a summary of Hamlet?

The answer to both of those questions is a resounding 'Not in the slightest, dragon-amigo.'
I'm aware that Yorick's skull doesn't really have much plot significance in Hamlet other than giving Hamlet a chance to wax philosophical (I really love using this phrase, by the way (it makes my soul sing )) about death and all that fun stuff.
I was just saying that because going from the way Hamlet is portrayed, it seems that a ton of silly people seem to think it's that important.

For more info on my lack of sincerity, highlightificate my post.

It was vague, open to interpretation.

[freeformschooler]

THE WARRENS OF FANFIC THE AWESOME: HIATUS TWELVE (THIRTEEN? FIFTEEN?)

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

It is dark.

>Switch computer

Your laptop illuminates the room. The soft glow of poorly-factored code burns your corneas.

You see here a map system, an unfinished battle system, a mostly-finished tileset, an unfinished spriteset. There is an exit to the north.

>Draw Al

You cannot find yon Wacom Tablet!

>N

You are in a dimly-lit garage.

>Switch brightness

You increase your laptop's brightness. On second glance, this is not a garage. It is merely a bedroom, piled halfway to the ceiling with accumulated gadgets, unfinished chores, and SECRETS.

You have gained 1 point.

>Look SECRETS

It would be best not to reveal your SECRETS.

>Look chores

You mustn't.

>Look SECRETS

You continue enticing the viewer with tantalizing previews of yet-unseen Warrens material.

>Look gadgets

You locate your Wacom Tablet. However, in your inattentiveness, you expose yourself to a brief glimpse of the CHORE OCEAN. Sadly, your next five hours will be spent reverting the house to a "bearable" state before work.

***GAME OVER***

Score: 1

[Elephant Parade]

We must hypothesize about the mysterious figure! QUICKLY!

[Dermonster]

up up down down left right left right B A Start Select.

XYZZY

[GreatWyrmGold]

I bet that if you added up all the time it took freeform to make this kind of stuff over the past few months, it would add up to about an update's worth.

[Harbingerjm]

What's wrong with fanfic? It's a tradition as old as feudalism, if not older. Heck, if you were out of earshot of Christians and theological scholars you could claim that the New Testament was fan fiction!

The problem with fan fiction is that it's subject to Sturgeon's law, even more so than other kinds of works. Sure, it CAN be done well… but a good 95% of it is downright horrible.

It's really not, it's just that since it doesn't usually get profesionally published regardless of quality because copyrights and such, the most common ways to find it are lacking in the filters you get for other kinds of works. If you had to sort through all the original fiction that gets crapped out by wannabe authors, instead of leaving all that to the publishers, you'd probably find it was just as bad as fanfiction.

[freeformschooler]

What's wrong with fanfic? It's a tradition as old as feudalism, if not older. Heck, if you were out of earshot of Christians and theological scholars you could claim that the New Testament was fan fiction!

The problem with fan fiction is that it's subject to Sturgeon's law, even more so than other kinds of works. Sure, it CAN be done well… but a good 95% of it is downright horrible.

It's really not, it's just that since it doesn't usually get profesionally published regardless of quality because copyrights and such, the most common ways to find it are lacking in the filters you get for other kinds of works. If you had to sort through all the original fiction that gets crapped out by wannabe authors, instead of leaving all that to the publishers, you'd probably find it was just as bad as fanfiction.

So true. With the advent of Amazon self-publishing, we're getting such beautiful gems as Dino Erotica. Yes, for money.

In more serious news: there is no news. I haven't worked on Warrens (or any forum game at all) recently. Here is what I have been working on, not counting ACTUAL RESPONSIBILITIES:

-Minus (the art in TWoOtA's first miniature fan game takes quite a bit of time because of its odd style and level of detail - compare this battle backdrop to the extremely minimalist environs of Warrens proper)
-Collab with Dex (I am not a programmer by trade, but he can't code, so division of labor sorted us out)
-Re-learning C/C++ (not as hard as it looks)

Well... yeah, other than misc. projects, that's it. Art's never come naturally to me, and I've currently stopped drawing entirely to focus on words (or code, or music). Ultimately, nothing will continue until I continue drawing. No ETA on when that'll be.

[RanDomino]

Guys, I totally found this on fanfiction.biz. The TWoOtA fandom seems to be taking off:

Spoiler: TWoOtA is Stuck in a Room!!! (click to show/hide)

by MindyLou1516

CiSl RiCh PrCC YaLich SpBtw OrAl OrOC AlOC 4ever

TWoOtA is totally owned by me, MindyLou1516! j/k!!!! for realsies it is owned by FFS plz do not sue! Princess MindyLou1516 is an ORIGINAL CHARACTER and is owned by me so no stealing~! I'M LOOKING AT YOU!

Oh, and I made some tiny changes to the charcaters so that my plot will work. In this ficcie they are all in High School in London instead of a dungeon, and Oric is the handsome homeroom teacher!

-------------------------////////CHAPTER 1: THE BEGINNING///////------------------

So all the TWoOtA guys are strapped in a blank white room! With no doors!?!

Ciro: "ARRRRGH I am going crazy! Let me out of this blank white room!"

Riltia: "NO, U CAN'T! I AM THE YANDERE TRIANGLE! I AM THE ONLY ONE ALLOWED TO GO CRAZY!" *Kills Ciro*

Slog: *Eats CheetOs*

Al: *Is playing Pokemon!* "Woo hoo! I beat Sabrina!"

Oric: "Well, since we are stuck in here, we should totally make out! I call dibs on Princess MindyLou1516!"

Princess MindyLou1516: *Turns red!!!* "Baka gaijin nekomimi BAKA!! We can't! Not when everyone is watching!"

Oric: "But Princess MindyLou1516! Ever since u were transferred into my class, I have become a changed man! I have renounced evil and pine only for ur love!!! I don't care if everyone knows it! I LOVE U PRINCESS MINDYLOU1516!!" *Orics luscious lips came closer and closer to my own!*

Al: "I too, was once a jerk, but no longer thanks to u! Also I have been cured of vampirism by the power of ur love? I LOVE U2 PRINCESS MINDYLOU1516!!!" *Al also geyts ready to kiss me!?!?*

Slog: *Eats CheetOs*

----------------------------------////////END OF CHAPTER ONE///////------------------------------------

Oh no!! Cliffy! "-_0" What will Princess MindyLou1516 do now that two hunks are trying to kiss her at same time?!?

Oh, and there was a typo, but I can't figure out how to change what I wrote? I accidentally typed 'me' where I meant to type 'Princess MindyLou1516'. It was an honest mistake and she is totally not a self-insertion character, and I wish u guys would STOP CALLING HER TAHT!!!!!!!

Please Like and give feedback! Nice comments will get u more of this fic, and maybe u might show up in future chapters, but flames will be IGNORED AND REPORTED TO THE SITE MODS!!!! Feedback trolls TOTALLY RUINED my MLP/Sonic/Amxu fic by saying MEAN THINGS about my OC, and I don't want to see that here!

Canon.

[GreatWyrmGold]

-snip-
Well... yeah, other than misc. projects, that's it. Art's never come naturally to me, and I've currently stopped drawing entirely to focus on words (or code, or music). Ultimately, nothing will continue until I continue drawing. No ETA on when that'll be.

Which brings me to a question I've been wondering for a while, ever since I considered ways to make TWoOtA easier to update...why do you only ever run illustrated games?

[freeformschooler]

Which brings me to a question I've been wondering for a while, ever since I considered ways to make TWoOtA easier to update...why do you only ever run illustrated games?

It's a good question. The simple answer is statistics: I've found it a lot easier to work on illustrated games for a long time than written games. Art can be like an aphrodisiac if you're in the mood.

The less simple answer is intuition. There are a LOT of mechanics in all my illustrated games that would be either very difficult or excessively clunky (usually the latter) to communicate to readers in text only. Players make visual/spatial connections amazingly fast, and that's one reason for this game's long theorycrafting tradition: I can communicate half-truths with images, and players can pick up on cues (locations, symbols, colors) to fill in the rest.

Just think about how much excess wordage we'd have in each update if there WEREN'T images. Mini-map spoiler, complete with arrows, symbol, and rollover text. Spirit Charge spoiler. Range indicators. Item menues and sub-menues would be laboriously written and linked. "As he pulls out the body for Riltia, Al kicks Cherish onto her back." Hell, even the ever-present Menu Tetris would be several times harder to communicate.

Making the same game in text, without losing anything I love about it, would actually be MORE work than it is now, and it certainly wouldn't have come this far.

[Weirdsound]

Which brings me to a question I've been wondering for a while, ever since I considered ways to make TWoOtA easier to update...why do you only ever run illustrated games?

It's a good question. The simple answer is statistics: I've found it a lot easier to work on illustrated games for a long time than written games. Art can be like an aphrodisiac if you're in the mood.

The less simple answer is intuition. There are a LOT of mechanics in all my illustrated games that would be either very difficult or excessively clunky (usually the latter) to communicate to readers in text only. Players make visual/spatial connections amazingly fast, and that's one reason for this game's long theorycrafting tradition: I can communicate half-truths with images, and players can pick up on cues (locations, symbols, colors) to fill in the rest.

Just think about how much excess wordage we'd have in each update if there WEREN'T images. Mini-map spoiler, complete with arrows, symbol, and rollover text. Spirit Charge spoiler. Range indicators. Item menues and sub-menues would be laboriously written and linked. "As he pulls out the body for Riltia, Al kicks Cherish onto her back." Hell, even the ever-present Menu Tetris would be several times harder to communicate.

Making the same game in text, without losing anything I love about it, would actually be MORE work than it is now, and it certainly wouldn't have come this far.

I agree with this big time, and I can't even draw worth a crap and don't consider myself an artist. The Halfling Paladin game I did last summer, which was my first ISG, was alot easier and more fun for me to make than any game I have done before or since, and all I had to go on there was a few stolen maps, a top down view, and static character pogs created with photography, graphics from free rougelikes, and some fan-art. I was going to stick with that game for a long time if the suggestions didn't just die off.

I don't post here much because I missed the first few hundred pages (I'll do an archive binge one of these days, I swear) and don't want to be caught saying something stupid or speculating on something everybody else knows, but this is a great piece of fiction, and from the perspective of an outside observer, the visual art has much to do with that.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Yeah, TWoOtA wouldn't have been the same if it wasn't illustrated.

And for me, at least, I find that text-based games inspire me more per unit effort. My attempted ISG did not end well.

[hachnslay]

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Princess MindyLou1516 is an ORIGINAL CHARACTER and is owned by me so no stealing~! I'M LOOKING AT YOU!
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these claims always remind me of a youtube video ...

[GiglameshDespair]

So true. With the advent of Amazon self-publishing, we're getting such beautiful gems as Dino Erotica. Yes, for money.

..Christ undead. That actually exsists. The writer claims they make a career out of that.

[LeoLeonardoIII]

Yeah, TWoOtA wouldn't have been the same if it wasn't illustrated.

And for me, at least, I find that text-based games inspire me more per unit effort. My attempted ISG did not end well.

I find that with a text game I can get a turn out with very little effort, but the ISG barrier for me is uploading and linking everything. If there were a hosting site I could use that would just let me drag a file from my computer into the browser window, upload in the background, but immediately give me a highlighted URL for the image for when it's ready - that would be acceptable. And I mean exactly zero other steps. Where I drop it would determine where it goes in the hosting site's file structure, etc. Don't even ask me to click an "upload" button. Don't reload the page. Don't load a million ads. It just gets to be too much hassle.