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[puke]

Lots of things are overpowered if you can get them -- they're offset by being rare and life being fickle, cruel, and short.

Whats up with the fungaloids now?  I dont remember them being this prolific.  I'm on day three and they're everywhere.

Lab map revealed two fungal spires, one of which is within about 20 map tiles.  With the fungaloid populations here, I wonder if i'll ever contain them even if I get rid of the spire?  I'm ignoring them for now, but I fear in another couple days I'll drown in them unless I hit the highway or something.

[i2amroy]

Aero-Evaporator seems... a bit broken...it effectively eliminates the need for collecting and boiling water since you just get a metal tank from any vehicle, empty it of gas then use it once on the metal tank to have a near unlimited supply of water...maybe this is offset by it being somewhat rare to find and potentially difficult to install.

We've got some eventual goals to severely limit the Aero-Evaporator based on time, so you won't be able to condense an effectively unlimited amount out of the same small patch of air.

[mosshadow]

Lots of things are overpowered if you can get them -- they're offset by being rare and life being fickle, cruel, and short.

Whats up with the fungaloids now?  I dont remember them being this prolific.  I'm on day three and they're everywhere.

Lab map revealed two fungal spires, one of which is within about 20 map tiles.  With the fungaloid populations here, I wonder if i'll ever contain them even if I get rid of the spire?  I'm ignoring them for now, but I fear in another couple days I'll drown in them unless I hit the highway or something.

I thought fungaloids dont grow?

[beorn080]

Aero-Evaporator seems... a bit broken...it effectively eliminates the need for collecting and boiling water since you just get a metal tank from any vehicle, empty it of gas then use it once on the metal tank to have a near unlimited supply of water...maybe this is offset by it being somewhat rare to find and potentially difficult to install.

We've got some eventual goals to severely limit the Aero-Evaporator based on time, so you won't be able to condense an effectively unlimited amount out of the same small patch of air.

Does it really need fixing? Integrated toolset covers a wide range of tools, the water extraction one lets you drain corpses indefinitely, and the rest have a huge number of potentially broken uses. Actually, the only thing I can think of that bionics don't directly help with is food, IE you still have to go hunting or fishing.

Speaking of fishing, I am not sure if fish corpses should give bones or not. Probably shouldn't, as that would make fishing capable of providing both food and water indefinitely.

[etgfrog]

Does it really need fixing? Integrated toolset covers a wide range of tools, the water extraction one lets you drain corpses indefinitely, and the rest have a huge number of potentially broken uses. Actually, the only thing I can think of that bionics don't directly help with is food, IE you still have to go hunting or fishing.

Speaking of fishing, I am not sure if fish corpses should give bones or not. Probably shouldn't, as that would make fishing capable of providing both food and water indefinitely.

I think it is more of an issue that it instantly fills 800 units of water for 8 energy...but as for food, expanded digestion system + recycler unit makes food almost a non-issue. yes you still would need to carry some food around...but it would probably sustainable by random berries that are found and something like lasauna would last you a week.

[i2amroy]

Does it really need fixing? Integrated toolset covers a wide range of tools, the water extraction one lets you drain corpses indefinitely, and the rest have a huge number of potentially broken uses. Actually, the only thing I can think of that bionics don't directly help with is food, IE you still have to go hunting or fishing.

Speaking of fishing, I am not sure if fish corpses should give bones or not. Probably shouldn't, as that would make fishing capable of providing both food and water indefinitely.

Water extraction is bugged and needs to be fixed as well. Integrated toolset is working exactly as intended. The big thing is that it isn't realistic for you to be able to pull gallon after gallon of water out of the same patch of the air (or out of the same small corpse).

[beorn080]

I do agree with that, actually. Simple fix for both, perhaps, maybe. Add a flag to map tiles and corpses to establish if one of those bionics has been used or not. For corpses, it would make them dessicated and make them not a valid target anymore. For the area, add a flag for the map tile. Map tile flags would clear every day. Not perfect, but would mean you'd have to at least travel around.

Also, question. Caltrops or Nailboard traps? Caltrops are cheaper to make, but I'm not sure which is more effective. The stat screen doesn't seem to say much about it.

[Sean Mirrsen]

I do agree with that, actually. Simple fix for both, perhaps, maybe. Add a flag to map tiles and corpses to establish if one of those bionics has been used or not. For corpses, it would make them dessicated and make them not a valid target anymore. For the area, add a flag for the map tile. Map tile flags would clear every day. Not perfect, but would mean you'd have to at least travel around.

Also, question. Caltrops or Nailboard traps? Caltrops are cheaper to make, but I'm not sure which is more effective. The stat screen doesn't seem to say much about it.

Caltrops all the way. Even if nailboards deal more damage, caltrops are much smaller and lighter, and easier to make as well. If you're using them on the go, there's no beating a stack of caltrops.

[DreamThorn]

Is there any point to being a hacker in this game? (What do you use it for?)

Also, nail-bats are surprisingly powerful.  (But I've recently discovered the power of axes.)

Speaking of axes, the version that I play has no indication of item durability, yet my fire axe sometimes disappears during combat.  First time that this happened was quite a surprising death.  (I found no messages in the log indicating why my axe was lost either time.)

[Sheb]

Could be that it get stuck into an enemy.

[DreamThorn]

That's what I thought at first, but none of the corpses had my axe after I killed them.

[scrdest]

Is there any point to being a hacker in this game? (What do you use it for?)

Also, nail-bats are surprisingly powerful.  (But I've recently discovered the power of axes.)

Speaking of axes, the version that I play has no indication of item durability, yet my fire axe sometimes disappears during combat.  First time that this happened was quite a surprising death.  (I found no messages in the log indicating why my axe was lost either time.)

Hacking (or rather Computers) is actually a very useful late-game skill, allowing you to get into areas with a lot of neat stuff (like bank vaults, police evidence lockers), or use various computerized systems to your benefit, like getting mutagenic sewer samples, healing stem cell treatment, or even

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LAUNCHING A NUCLEAR WARHEAD on the map tile of your choosing.

[DreamThorn]

Ah, thanks.  Maybe I'll try that with my next build.

[gimlet]

The stuff that is behind doors that computers open is *usually* reachable by using some explosives.  That being said, I always train up computer skills and pick up some pretty damn good stuff, usually from Labs first.  It's a great payoff for searching a few libraries and spending a few hours reading some books...

[Iceblaster]

Obligatory poni.

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