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[Toaster]

Very well, then.

MrCelt.

[webadict]

Webadict startled as he left his daydream. He looked quickly down and to the left to find a kid that had probably just poked him only a few seconds ago.

"Mr. Webadict," the child began, "Whatcha doin?"

Webadict looked ahead at nothing in particular. "I'm making sure you kids don't get hurt." He looked down at his watch. Only a few more minutes to go.

"Oh... That sounds boring." The kid ran off. Webadict raised an eyebrow, but spotted a kid that had fallen down not far away. He blew his whistle.

Two children, Tylui and MrCelt, were lying down on the blacktop. It seems as though they just knocked themselves out by running into each other.

"MrCelt, you gonna keep playing?" asked Toaster, as he stood spinning a football, with a few others behind him.

"Kids, I don't think h-"

"Whatever. Let's just play without him." The kids ran off.

Webadict grabbed his walkie-talkie and called up the nurse.

Vote Count
------------------------
Bookthras -
Dariush -
Deathsword -
Hapah -
Jack A T -
MrCelt - Toaster,
Shakerag -
Toaster -
ToonyMan -
Tylui -
zombie urist -

Not Voting -

1 To Hammer. Day Ends Thursday 9 PM Central.

MrCelt has been lynched!

MrCelt was The 99% (mafia).

It is now Night.

MrCelt - The 99%

Alignment: Mafia
Wincon: You win when your team equals or outnumbers the remaining players and all other killing roles are dead.

(Auto) The 99%: You appear Town to inspections. Tracks used against you show you targeting the user.
(Mafiakill) Redistribution [target]: If the target is not Town, this action fails. The target is recruited to the mafia. You swap roles. You die.
(Night) Occupy [target]: You block the target.

[webadict]

Just a little update, I have everything to start the Day except time. I'll be able to update this by Wednesday. Sorry folks. Just need to make sure I get stuff done for finals.

[ToonyMan]

That works for me too since mine end Wednesday.

[webadict]

After the kid was carted off, Webadict took a sit on a nearby bench. He wiped the sweat off his brow, only to notice a kid staring directly at him. The kid was sitting in the sandbox only a few feet from where he was, but he wasn't doing anything. Webadict tried not to let this bother him, but he couldn't help it.

"Hey, kid. Something wrong?"

The kid began playing with the sand some more. Webadict closed his eyes, but quickly opened one to check on the kid again. The kid was staring again.

Webadict got off the bench and walked over to him.

"What's wrong?"

"...Sand..." said the kid softly.

Webadict raised an eyebrow.

"...Not... enough... sand..." the kid managed to sputter out.

Webadict took a look around the box to find that the kid had managed to spell out DARIUSI with most of the sand. He was basically sitting on concrete. Impressive really, for a little kid. Webadict didn't even notice that the kid had run off.

Dariush has been killed!

Dariush was a Spacechem Engineer (town).

Voting System has been changed to Duel!

Players vote for whom they wish to duel. The two or more highest voted players duel. One player is chosen at random to win the duel.

Vote Count
------------------------
Bookthras -
Deathsword -
Hapah -
Jack A T -
Shakerag -
Toaster -
ToonyMan -
Tylui -
zombie urist -

Not Voting - Bookthras, Deathsword, Hapah, Jack A T, Shakerag, Toaster, ToonyMan, Tylui, zombie urist,

5 To Hammer. Day Ends Tuesday 9 PM Central.

It is now Day.

Dariush - Spacechem Engineer

Alignment: Town
Wincon: You win when all anti-Town factions are dead. (Mafia, Cult, SK, Lyncher, Assassin and respective Allies and Brothers)

(Auto) Particle Collection: You have an infinite collection of these particles: Protectium (Chemical Symbol - P), Blockogen (Chemical Symbol - B), and Inspecton (Chemical Symbol - I). You may combine two particles/molecules per Phase. This is a free action. Created molecules are stored and can also be combined. In order to use actions, you must have the adequate molecule.
(Night) P2 [target]: You protect the target.
(Night) I3 [target]: You track the target.
(Night) PB2I [target]: You block the target.
(1-Shot) PB3I2 [target]: You kill the target. You regain I2.

[ToonyMan]

MOD: Can we get Dariush's role info?

Also Bookthras, was Mr. Celt town too?

[Toaster]

Tylui:  Are you even playing any more?



WUBA:  Do we vote for one or two people?

[webadict]

Tylui:  Are you even playing any more?



WUBA:  Do we vote for one or two people?

1 person.

[zombie urist]

Last final today. Post later tonight.

[Bookthras]

ToonyMan:

Bookthras, was Mr. Celt town too?

Heh. Why would you say something like that? Did I say he was town? Even remotely implied it? This is just one more instance of you putting words in my mouth I didn't say, like you did several times D2.

Seriously, can you not see the difference between this:

(Auto) Dust For Prints: You learn the number of non-Town players that target you at Night.
(Night) Investigate [target]: You learn whether the target is non-Town or Town.
(1-Shot) Conspire: No one can die during this Phase.

and this?:

(Auto) The 99%: You appear Town to inspections. Tracks used against you show you targeting the user.
(Mafiakill) Redistribution [target]: If the target is not Town, this action fails. The target is recruited to the mafia. You swap roles. You die.
(Night) Occupy [target]: You block the target.

Do both seem equally likely to be scum to you?

This tunneling based on lies of yours is getting increasingly scummy. I wouldn't mind to see you jump into that duel thing. But before we decide that, let's hear from others first.


Jack AT: I think you are MrCelt's buddy. You were careful not to antagonise them, and your pokes at him read more like coaching than suspicion. Then you went out of your way to avoid electing Dariush explicitly because he'd lynch MrCelt. Then "forgot to post" and failed to give even an opinion about Toaster's proposal to lynch him, even though discussion was precisely what you said you wanted from him. Some quotes as background:

Spoiler: Jack on MrCelt (click to show/hide)

MrCelt: This...Alright, I understand you're a newbie.  However, even taking that into account, this is the single worst vote I have ever seen in any Mafia game. You hammered a guy with your entire reasoning being "What Hapah said."  This, of course, almost immediately after saying that...well...you don't like the bandwagon on UI.  Not just that, but that you actually disagree completely with the argument that you used to kill UI.  Explain.

Note the lack of actual statement of suspicion, merely saying "ok, you're noob, but explain", basically giving him the "because I'm noob" explanation pretyped.

General thought: I'm actually leaning against MrCelt being a mafioso.  His actions, while quite off-putting, were mostly incredibly stupid and dumb.  He doesn't feel like someone getting any advice in a scumchat.    MrCelt feels like a third party of some sort, most likely, with town less likely.

(Mind you, I also had a stronger noob-read than scum-read on MrCelt, but unlike me, he actually presents arguments against MrCelt being mafia, then fails to follow up.)

I don't like how little of an idea I have about who Toaster would vote, but he's promising the chance to argue for/against it.  The MrCelt lynch Dariush wants isn't something I'm convinced on, and that's guaranteed.

Toaster, I guess.

Note he goes for the only choice that has chances of MrCelt's survival, states he wants a chance for discussion and then completely ignores it when it comes, and that half-assed "I guess" vote of resignation.

Mr. Celt: Alright.  Now that people are leaving RVS and people are throwing their thoughts on actual matters of importance around, please give us your thoughts on, well...anything going on in the game right now.  Also, how many games of Mafia have you played in Bay 12 before?

and

MrCelt: Again, please give your opinion on pretty much anything going on in this game.  RVS is over.  It's been over for quite some time now.

... read very much like coaching. He probably was saying the same thing over scumchat and was frustrated by MrCelt's lurkiness, so he insisted on the main thread, again without ever stating suspicion or even a FoS.

On top of that, he has been terse and avoided the spotlight quite successfully, while giving some pearls of activelurking like this:

Ugh.  I wish more people would post.

Followed by:

Fuck, forgot to post anything yesterday.

Questions for you: What is your opinion of ToonyMan's tunneling on me? What alignment do you think Leafsnail actually had? Has Shakerag answered all your questions?


I'd also like to hear more from Deathsword, Tylui, Shakerag and Zombie: please give your top scumpicks with reasons, and ask the others a question.


Wuba: please clarify: if at end of day one player has 4 votes, and three others two votes (none with three votes), is then the duel between all four players, lynchee decided at random? If one player is hammered with five votes and no other player is voted (all others have zero votes), is the lynch decided randomly amongst all players?

...if so, I expect plenty of opportunities for the scum to fuck with the lynch today.

[webadict]

Wuba: please clarify: if at end of day one player has 4 votes, and three others two votes (none with three votes), is then the duel between all four players, lynchee decided at random? If one player is hammered with five votes and no other player is voted (all others have zero votes), is the lynch decided randomly amongst all players?

...if so, I expect plenty of opportunities for the scum to fuck with the lynch today.

Correct. All four people duel it out.

Incorrect. No lynch is performed in the second example.

[ToonyMan]

MOD: Can we get Dariush's role info?

I guess not then, huh?

Wuba: please clarify: if at end of day one player has 4 votes, and three others two votes (none with three votes), is then the duel between all four players, lynchee decided at random? If one player is hammered with five votes and no other player is voted (all others have zero votes), is the lynch decided randomly amongst all players?
...if so, I expect plenty of opportunities for the scum to fuck with the lynch today.

Correct. All four people duel it out.

If my impression is correct then is there only one survivor?  Or only one dead?

Do both seem equally likely to be scum to you?

Yes.  They're both labeled as part of the mafia faction and the OP has them in red.  I have no reason to doubt their scumitude beyond your deceit.  They even behaved like scum (something you admitted yourself).

This tunneling based on lies of yours is getting increasingly scummy. I wouldn't mind to see you jump into that duel thing. But before we decide that, let's hear from others first.

I don't mind if you're the dueler, no reason to skitter away.

[ToonyMan]

Ah I see the role, never mind the first question.

[webadict]

Wuba: please clarify: if at end of day one player has 4 votes, and three others two votes (none with three votes), is then the duel between all four players, lynchee decided at random? If one player is hammered with five votes and no other player is voted (all others have zero votes), is the lynch decided randomly amongst all players?
...if so, I expect plenty of opportunities for the scum to fuck with the lynch today.

Correct. All four people duel it out.

If my impression is correct then is there only one survivor?  Or only one dead?

Somebody better prepare some body bags.

[Bookthras]

ToonyMan:

Do both seem equally likely to be scum to you?

Yes.  They're both labeled as part of the mafia faction and the OP has them in red.  I have no reason to doubt their scumitude beyond your deceit.  They even behaved like scum (something you admitted yourself).

Right. They're both painted red because they both flipped mafia. If a death-miller existed, do you think he'd be painted green on the OP when he flipped? Wouldn't that defeat the purpose? How do you think an actual death-miller would be coloured?

Sure, Leaf behaved scummily D1, but his flip details give reason to doubt his actual alignment was mafia. You are free to disagree, but when you base that disagreement on lies, faulty logic, and wilful ignorance of facts (like, say, implications of the lack of other kills N1), it reads more like an argument a scum would present to defend a bullshit case.

This tunneling based on lies of yours is getting increasingly scummy. I wouldn't mind to see you jump into that duel thing. But before we decide that, let's hear from others first.

I don't mind if you're the dueler, no reason to skitter away.

Right, but you didn't answer my concerns about your case being based on lies or my questions:
- What prompted your question implying I thought MrCelt was town?
- When did I say I wanted to lynch Leafsnail D2?
- When did I ignore Leaf flipped mafia?
- Is your opinion that the fact Leafsnail didn't claim death-miller D1 means he couldn't be one?

Additional questions: please give your other scum picks with reasons; how do you think the lynch mechanics will impact the day's votes; and state your opinions on scummitude of Shakerag, Toaster and Hapah.


Wuba:

Wuba: please clarify: if at end of day one player has 4 votes, and three others two votes (none with three votes), is then the duel between all four players, lynchee decided at random?

Correct. All four people duel it out.

Somebody better prepare some body bags.

Amusing, but please be clear: if one player has four votes and three players have two votes, please state which players duel, how many survive, how many die, and how is the outcome determined?