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[Grek]

Even if she's a cripple (which she probably isn't!), I think trading our Displacement Gift for our freedom is a good deal.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Even if she's a cripple (which she probably isn't!), I think trading our Displacement Gift for our freedom is a good deal.

Exactly. As for let's wait for better mate - we don't know when we'll find a better mate that we can convert that easily

[GreatWyrmGold]

First off, we have a limited number of mates; I'd rather make sire we've got a good-quality one before transforming her.

Second, what makes you think that a mate will take us closer to freedom than an elven family that's glad we didn't turn their matriarch? I'm sure that they'd be glad to help us if we asked for some other favor...

[racnor]

I'm not suggesting we get rid of her. Just take a look around the settlement first.

[Weirdsound]

Character:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: the Male Night Troll "My father says I earn a name when people fear me enough to give me one."

Physical Traits:
Movement is Impaired in Left Arm. Grasping is Impaired in Left Hand.
Tattooed Arms "Prevents me from getting magic fatigued as easily, and even helps out a bit with casting. Also: Fashionable."
Springy Legs "I wish I could fly, but being able to jump like a flea and kick peoples ribs in is the next best thing."
Camouflaged Body "I can be invisible... at a glance or at a distance."
Hypnotic Gaze "I'm good at disabling a mortal's self preservation instinct... not so good at predicting his actions once I do."

Skills:
Eon Manipulation (+4) "Eon Manipulation is a family tradition. I hope to someday be as good as my father..."
Stealth (+4) "They can't escape what they can't see!"
Dark Manipulation (+2) "The night is my birthright and my greatest ally..."
Night Creature Empathy (+1) "Because it pays to be friends with other night dwellers."
Communication (+1) "Even for one as hideous as myself, a silver tongue goes a long way!"

Inventory:
A cursed bracelet of binding (Worn, right arm)
An Elf Tooth Charm Necklace (Worn)
Alchemist's Work Outfit [Shirt, Apron, Pants] (Worn)
-A Soul Catcher Necklace (In pocket)
-7 Fistfulls of Oak Ash (In pocket)
-1 Flask of Oil [4/5 Full] (In pocket)
-1 Flint Fire-starter Kit (In pocket)
-1 Pair of Forceps (In pocket)
-1 Handheld mirror (In pocket)
-2 Large Rubies (In Pocket)
-1 Human Stomach of Phyros [Magically Preserved] (In Pocket)
-1 Human Brain of Phyros [Magically Preserved] (In Pocket)
-1 Medium Sized Jar Labeled 'Ghost Pepper Jam' (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack of Grey Powder Labeled 'Phoenix Ash' (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack of Assorted Dragon Bits [Small Bones, Scales, Teeth, Ect] (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack Labeled 'Warning: Gunpowder' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'The Utility of Fire: Basic Flame Manipulation for Non-Combat Use' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'Intro to the Inferno: The Scourge's Guide to Flame Manipulation' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'The Devil's Cookbook: Alchemy for Those Lacking in Moral Fiber' (In Pocket)
Thick Belt (Worn)
-1 Large Knife (Sheathed, Hanging from Belt)
"I have to steal souls.... Eeeeeeeewwww...."

Perks:
Magic Perks
Budding Animal Empath: You will gain the animal empathy skill if you succeed in 2 animal empathy actions, or successfully study it in a book
Improving Eon Mage: Your Eon magic skill will increase if you succeed in 4 successful Eon Manipulation actions, or train extensively with a superior eon manipulator twice.
Time Displacement Specialist: Take a +1 to any attempt to send something foward in time.
Budding Fire Manipulator: You will gain the fire manipulation skill if you succeed in 2 fire manipulation actions or train with somebody who has it
Aspiring Water Manipulator: You will gain the water manipulation skill if you succeed in 6 water manipulation actions, or train extensively with somebody who has it
Fire Manipulation Utility Theory: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using non-destructive fire magic
Fire Manipulation Combat Theory: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using fire magic to destroy, kill, or maim
Bug Speaker: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using animal empathy on bugs

Reproductive Perks
Mature: You are physically and mentally capable of converting and impregnating mates. To do so you must spend a "Gift" perk. "Gift" perks can be gained by rolling very high, learning new skills, or through other supernatural means. If you create a child it may be born with some traits of it's mother in addition to whatever gift you use to conceive it.
First Gift: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have your four physical features. Gifts that grant more than two traits are rare, so this may be worth saving for somebody special.
Gift of Displacement: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have the ability to blink forward short distances through time and/or space.

Recipes:
Drought of Perception Blotting: Causes the drinker to become invisible to members of a single sentient race unless the drinker tries to get their attention or is pointed out to them.
-1 Brain of the Race you wish to be not noticed by
-1 Fistfull of ash from burned oak
-1 1 Large Mug of digestive juices from a mammal

Well, we can ask her husband, something like

" Why do you think that your wife worth more than you or your gold?"

"What makes you think your wife is worth more than yourself or the gold?" You hiss.

The elf gazes at the sky briefly. "...To me she isn't. Our relationship is more or less non-existant at this point, and the kids we turned out are rancid little turds. You however can eat her, convert her, or whatever else it is you want to do with her. You also get a place that will be safe for months and a reasonable supply of food out of the bargin. And I can't imagine any shopkeep throwing open his doors to a night troll to let him spend gold anyway."

You shake your head. "Let me rephrase that worm. If I were to turn her, what would I be getting into?"

He lowers his ancient head to look into your eyes. "A good deal of spunk and style. She has been practicing oration, calligraphy, enchantment, sword play, and dark manipulation as of late. She intends to join the high queen's government or lead a bandit gang after her current marriage concludes... She also of course possesses all the animal empathy and woodsmanship skills needed to run the ranch.

Her personality isn't that bad, but its her politics that drive me crazy. I remember when all elves live like we do in Everpine today. None of those foul forest defiling races allowed. She of course can't wait to get out of this little 'backwards hick community' and return to some unholy cosmopolitan hellhole!

You know, I think killing your kind off was the biggest mistake my people ever made. With the night a bit less frightening more people could wander and pollute each other's culture. It will serve her right to help you restore your numbers! I for one pine for the days when Armshredder kept the humans and dwarves from our woods, Dreadspikes kept them from our deserts, Illdeath from our jungles, Trumpst-"

You hiss loudly as your father's name escapes the old man's lips, cutting off his rant. "Just take me to your ranch human, and I shall decide for myself if I want your gold, yourself, or your wife."

The ancient being gulps and his fear spikes a bit before he gestures for you to follow him.

......

The ranch is located about a 30 minute walk from town. It is a small plot with a 'barn' dug out from the ground for the horse size birds to roost in and two residential trees connected by a bridge of leather and cloth.

The elf smirks. "Okay. Here is the deal. The bag of gold is in the barn. The bag itself is protected by a powerful enchantment: Nobody can find it unless I tell them it's exact location. You have three choices.

You can strike me down here; I will take the location of my gold to my grave, and hopefully scream loud enough to wake the wife.

You could let me enter the house - the residential tree to our left. Once inside I will wake the wife and shout down the exact location of my gold.

Finally you could enter my house, at which point I would grab the gold and run while you are dealing with my wife.

There are weapons in both the house and the barn, so if you try to go back on our deal and go after me, I will put up a fight. Well Mr. Beast, what is it going to be?"

[Weirdsound]

-Freaking forums made me double post. Sorry!-

[Mlamlah]

I don't think we should make her a mate until we've seen her first. Our experience suggests grabbing one of the bachelorets would be more profitable anyway. Also, there is a greater potential for allies if we can make ourselves seem like a benefactor more than a monster, it's wiser long term. I also think we should get on sending that message fast.

[Iituem]

Even if we don't turn her... a minion would be useful, especially a skilled one.  Take the wife and offer her a 'job' instead; kill our master (without revealing our connection to him; phrase it as a 'test of her ability') and we will take her on as our lieutenant and assist her in fulfilling her political goals.  Give her the half-lie that you want eyes and ears within the Elven community, and in return you will grant her your favour - say, violently murdering political opponents, making things go a little more smoothly for her.  Ensure she knows who is firmly in command, though.  You wouldn't be her servant - she would be yours.

Or, of course, you can kill her and hunt down all of her families.  Her choice.

[Mlamlah]

We need to gauge her first, she may not be as cut-throat as her husband.

[jaass]

From what we just heard she sounds like she is just bored with her life and wants a life of excitement or we can also introduce her to Esmeralda. Or we can go with Iituem idea which deals with another problem in one swell swoop. But if his idea doesn't work you can entice her with a life of excitement.

edit: Mlamlah is probably a good idea before doing Iituem's idea.

[Grek]

Guys, seriously. We have a workable plan here. Convert the wife, make her disenchant the bracelet and let the man-elf go. Let's not complicate this by letting our new minion keep her free will or having qualms about converting people. For goodness sakes, she has skill at enchantment, sword fighting, dark manipulation, animal empathy and a bunch of other useful stuff. We aren't going to find someone better!

[Mlamlah]

I actually missed the update >>, sorry. Converting her seems like a solid idea.

[Remalle]

What about intimidating the elf into getting us the gold first, under threat of a fate worse than death?  Then we let him go and take a look at his wife as well.

[Mlamlah]

I am against that idea, it's... obvious. It will just goad him into uncooperativeness, with our recent streak of bad luck we don't need to cause our self more and more opportunities for inconvenience or death.

[Fireiy]

I agree with Grek and disagree with Remalle.