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[GreatWyrmGold]

Screw the pretty girl!
No, her father's a powerful mage and our only ally! Don't you dare!
KILL EVERYTHING AND BURN IT TO THE GROUND!
What is wrong with you?

[Grek]

Compromise position: Turn the mother bear, train the babies to use pyromancy and then eat Alice.

[Weirdsound]

Each time I come here to post another update, the debate just keeps getting better and better and I decide to just let it play out a bit longer.

And all I'm going to say is reproduction without conversion is not possible.

[racnor]

Compromise position: Turn the mother bear, train the babies to use pyromancy and then eat Alice.

aaaaaaand sigged

[GreatWyrmGold]

Compromise position: Turn the mother bear, train the babies to use pyromancy and then eat Alice.

...
Two of those are probably impossible and DEFINITELY bad ideas, the last is the worst suggestion that we are physically capable of doing.

Please tell me you're joking...

[Nicholas1024]

Seriously, I think some people just want this game to get as FUN as possible as quickly as possible.

I stand by my previous suggestion of sending Alice back to the tower with the cubs and hunting on our own.

[GreatWyrmGold]

First, remind her of the reasons NOT to transform her into a night troll.

[Weirdsound]

Okay. I got a TTRPG going tonight, but after that I'll try to update this.

[Ukrainian Ranger]

And all I'm going to say is reproduction without conversion is not possible.

Oh, well. I hoped for another situation So no sex for a while, unless we want to run away
______________________________________

I support sending Alice back to the tower with cubs and continue hunting alone, but that can wait till the next update. first chat a bit with the girl and explain her few things:

a) That we like her like she is. And would be like to have her as a friend and an ally (and I mean feel this, don't lie)
b) That you are attracted to her beauty and sure that she would be a great mate, but:
c) That even if that happens we can't be loyal, because we must convert and impregnate as many females as you can
d) That we have concerns that Foghorn can ban any contacts between us if he will think that we both want conversion
e) Repeat that we find her beautiful and while you sure that she'll be a very alluring night troll, we aren't sure that we want to destroy the beauty that exists.
f) DO NOT tell her "it's a big step, think better, you can't change back, we know each other 2 days" and another bullshit like that (translation to teens' language - you are stupid kid and can't make decisions on your own)

[GreatWyrmGold]

first chat a bit with the girl and explain her few things:

a) That we like her like she is. And would be like to have her as a friend and an ally (and I mean feel this, don't lie)
b) That you are attracted to her beauty and sure that she would be a great mate, but:
c) That even if that happens we can't be loyal, because we must convert and impregnate as many females as you can
d) That we have concerns that Foghorn can ban any contacts between us if he will think that we both want conversion
e) Repeat that we find her beautiful and while you sure that she'll be a very alluring night troll, we aren't sure that we want to destroy the beauty that exists.
f) DO NOT tell her "it's a big step, think better, you can't change back, we know each other 2 days" and another bullshit like that (translation to teens' language - you are stupid kid and can't make decisions on your own)

Agreed. Sounds good.

[Weirdsound]

Character:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: the Male Night Troll "My father says I earn a name when people fear me enough to give me one."

Physical Traits:
Tattooed Arms "Prevents me from getting magic fatigued as easily, and even helps out a bit with casting. Also: Fashionable."
Springy Legs "I wish I could fly, but being able to jump like a flea and kick peoples ribs in is the next best thing."
Camouflaged Body "I can be invisible... at a glance or at a distance."
Hypnotic Gaze "I'm good at disabling a mortal's self preservation instinct... not so good at predicting his actions once I do."

Skills:
Eon Manipulation (+4) "Eon Manipulation is a family tradition. I hope to someday be as good as my father..."
Stealth (+4) "They can't escape what they can't see!"
Dark Manipulation (+2) "The night is my birthright and my greatest ally..."
Night Creature Empathy (+1) "Because it pays to be friends with other night dwellers."
Communication (+1) "Even for one as hideous as myself, a silver tongue goes a long way!"

Inventory:
An Elf Tooth Charm Necklace (Worn)
Alchemist's Work Outfit [Shirt, Apron, Pants] (Worn)
-7 Fistfulls of Oak Ash (In pocket)
-1 Flask of Oil [4/5 Full] (In pocket)
-1 Flint Fire-starter Kit (In pocket)
-1 Pair of Forceps (In pocket)
-1 Handheld mirror (In pocket)
-2 Large Rubies (In Pocket)
-1 Human Stomach of Phyros [Magically Preserved] (In Pocket)
-1 Human Brain of Phyros [Magically Preserved] (In Pocket)
-1 Medium Sized Jar Labeled 'Ghost Pepper Jam' (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack of Grey Powder Labeled 'Phoenix Ash' (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack of Assorted Dragon Bits [Small Bones, Scales, Teeth, Ect] (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack Labeled 'Warning: Gunpowder' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'The Utility of Fire: Basic Flame Manipulation for Non-Combat Use' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'Intro to the Inferno: The Scourge's Guide to Flame Manipulation' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'The Devil's Cookbook: Alchemy for Those Lacking in Moral Fiber' (In Pocket)
Thick Belt (Worn)
-1 Large Knife (Sheathed, Hanging from Belt)
-1 Sword of Flame (Sheathed, Hanging from Belt)
"Keeping mortal guts on my pockets make these clothes feel more 'me'."

Perks:
Magic Perks
Budding Animal Empath: You will gain the animal empathy skill if you succeed in 2 animal empathy actions, or successfully study it in a book
Improving Eon Mage: Your Eon magic skill will increase if you succeed in 5 successful Eon Manipulation actions, or train extensively with a superior eon manipulator twice.
Time Displacement Specialist: Take a +1 to any attempt to send something foward in time.
Budding Fire Manipulator: You will gain the fire manipulation skill if you succeed in 2 fire manipulation actions or train with somebody who has it
Aspiring Water Manipulator: You will gain the water manipulation skill if you succeed in 6 water manipulation actions, or train extensively with somebody who has it
Fire Manipulation Utility Theory: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using non-destructive fire magic
Fire Manipulation Combat Theory: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using fire magic to destroy, kill, or maim
Bug Speaker: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using animal empathy on bugs

Reproductive Perks
Mature: You are physically and mentaly capable of converting and impregnating mates. To do so you must spend a "Gift" perk. "Gift" perks can be gained by rolling very high, learning new skills, or through other supernatural means. If you create a child it may be born with some traits of it's mother in addition to whatever gift you use to conceive it.
First Gift: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have your four physical features. Gifts that grant more than two traits are rare, so this may be worth saving for somebody special.
Gift of Displacement: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have the ability to blink forward short distances through time and/or space.

Recipes:
Drought of Perception Blotting: Causes the drinker to become invisible to members of a single sentient race unless the drinker tries to get their attention or is pointed out to them.
-1 Brain of the Race you wish to be not noticed by
-1 Fistfull of ash from burned oak
-1 1 Large Mug of digestive juices from a mammal

And all I'm going to say is reproduction without conversion is not possible.

Oh, well. I hoped for another situation So no sex for a while, unless we want to run away
______________________________________

I support sending Alice back to the tower with cubs and continue hunting alone, but that can wait till the next update. first chat a bit with the girl and explain her few things:

a) That we like her like she is. And would be like to have her as a friend and an ally (and I mean feel this, don't lie)
b) That you are attracted to her beauty and sure that she would be a great mate, but:
c) That even if that happens we can't be loyal, because we must convert and impregnate as many females as you can
d) That we have concerns that Foghorn can ban any contacts between us if he will think that we both want conversion
e) Repeat that we find her beautiful and while you sure that she'll be a very alluring night troll, we aren't sure that we want to destroy the beauty that exists.
f) DO NOT tell her "it's a big step, think better, you can't change back, we know each other 2 days" and another bullshit like that (translation to teens' language - you are stupid kid and can't make decisions on your own)

You open your mouth and begin a beautiful rejection speech in Elven, touching on themes such as beauty (hers), loyalty (your practical inability to possess it), and her father (likely able to kill either of you). 1d20 = 15 + 1(Skill) = 16

Alice nods and offers a short round of applause. "Why sir beast, you are a poet, and I am flattered that you go to such lengths to avoid breaking my heart. My offer however was not romantic proposition, it was a simple statement of fact. You saved me from death, so I don't have any right to stop you from inflicting upon me any fate that is not quite as bad. I would prefer to remain as I am, and I was merely observing that I no longer have any say in the matter. Your romantic rejection brings my heart much relief. I look forward to maintaining our friendship until death severs it."

The girl blushes as she notices that she has soiled herself before speaking again; this time in her native tongue. "And... allow me to offer just a bit of practical advice seeing as you must be new to dealing with humans. When a woman keeps her hair and clothes as man would, as I do, there is a fair chance that she prefers to keep female company. You don't have to worry about me taking any sort of initiative toward you."

You stare into space for a few seconds, a bit taken aback, before speaking again in human. "Right then. Take the bears back to the tower and tidy yourself up. I am famished, so I will remain in the woods and do some more hunting."

Alice nods, and briefly communicates with the bears before leading them off. You then turn and wander deeper into the woods.

...

Some time later you come across a party of three elves and 5 wolves. Two are dressed as guards, lightly armored yet heavily armed. The third wears mage's robes. They are talking. You note their use of elven is much less poetic than your own.

"Don't worry about it Sir Vindel. There is no way that dog Lipiz could have survived the trap. There is a blood trail leading away from your rune. He has to be dead."

"We found no body, and you saw his wolf. That thing was cursed... Something else likely got him, but we don't know for sure. We can't afford him showing back up in town and implicating us for attempted murder, so until night falls, or we find a body, WE SEARCH THIS GODAMN FOREST!"

Both the guards give a defeated look and mutter under their breaths while you take inventory of the situation.

You don't have alot of combat experience so you are not sure what your odds would be if you chose to attack. You know Vindel wont put up much of a fight himself, but you wouldn't want to be caught by a guard's weapon or a wolf's teeth. A hit and run attack on Vindel might be possible; seeing as they might not want to answer questions about why they were out in the woods, the guards might not even report it. You could also stalk them for awhile, but that would be a bit dangerous; your camouflage and stealth are no match for a canine nose, and one of the elves could even spot you if they get lucky.

"Hmm... how to go about this..."

Encounter Roll: 1d20 = 13 - 3(You have no skill to use for navigation or hunting) = 10

[Ukrainian Ranger]

Hmmmm,
I have a plan
 
Leap, catch Vindel, send us both in a future for several hours

But I am not sure about it myself, because many things can go wrong

[Mlamlah]

I'm not sure i agree with a full out attack, but maybe we can screw with them a bit, make them fear the night (or the forest). I'm open to the  idea of an indirect attack on the mage too.
We could attack their minds with dark manipulation to mess them up for anything else we might try.
Also, while i don't necessarily think it's a good idea, if there was ever a time to set the forest on fire, it's now.
We could set some kind of trap for them.
Or! I have an idea, if we really want to attack boldly. We could draw an eon manipulation circle around them. It would not effect the space inside of the circle, but anything that touched it's outer edges would be stopped or slowed, and vulnerable to attack at our leisure. Wolves and soldiers need to get to us to harm us, and Vindel is reportedly skilled mostly in magic that remain stationary. We can also draw the circle and leave, to maintain a safe getaway.

[racnor]

we can only us dark manipulation in low-light conditions, so it won't work here. I suggest throwing vindel forward in time, running and coming back for him later. If the guards follow us, try setting a swarm of bugs on them.

[Weirdsound]

Character:

Spoiler (click to show/hide)

Name: the Male Night Troll "My father says I earn a name when people fear me enough to give me one."

Physical Traits:
Tattooed Arms "Prevents me from getting magic fatigued as easily, and even helps out a bit with casting. Also: Fashionable."
Springy Legs "I wish I could fly, but being able to jump like a flea and kick peoples ribs in is the next best thing."
Camouflaged Body "I can be invisible... at a glance or at a distance."
Hypnotic Gaze "I'm good at disabling a mortal's self preservation instinct... not so good at predicting his actions once I do."

Skills:
Eon Manipulation (+4) "Eon Manipulation is a family tradition. I hope to someday be as good as my father..."
Stealth (+4) "They can't escape what they can't see!"
Dark Manipulation (+2) "The night is my birthright and my greatest ally..."
Night Creature Empathy (+1) "Because it pays to be friends with other night dwellers."
Communication (+1) "Even for one as hideous as myself, a silver tongue goes a long way!"

Inventory:
A cursed bracelet of binding (Worn)
An Elf Tooth Charm Necklace (Worn)
Alchemist's Work Outfit [Shirt, Apron, Pants] (Worn)
-7 Fistfulls of Oak Ash (In pocket)
-1 Flask of Oil [4/5 Full] (In pocket)
-1 Flint Fire-starter Kit (In pocket)
-1 Pair of Forceps (In pocket)
-1 Handheld mirror (In pocket)
-2 Large Rubies (In Pocket)
-1 Human Stomach of Phyros [Magically Preserved] (In Pocket)
-1 Human Brain of Phyros [Magically Preserved] (In Pocket)
-1 Medium Sized Jar Labeled 'Ghost Pepper Jam' (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack of Grey Powder Labeled 'Phoenix Ash' (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack of Assorted Dragon Bits [Small Bones, Scales, Teeth, Ect] (In Pocket)
-1 Small Sack Labeled 'Warning: Gunpowder' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'The Utility of Fire: Basic Flame Manipulation for Non-Combat Use' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'Intro to the Inferno: The Scourge's Guide to Flame Manipulation' (In Pocket)
-1 Book Titled 'The Devil's Cookbook: Alchemy for Those Lacking in Moral Fiber' (In Pocket)
Thick Belt (Worn)
-1 Large Knife (Sheathed, Hanging from Belt)
-1 Sword of Flame (Sheathed, Hanging from Belt)
"Son of a bitch. I'm good and trapped now."

Perks:
Magic Perks
Budding Animal Empath: You will gain the animal empathy skill if you succeed in 2 animal empathy actions, or successfully study it in a book
Improving Eon Mage: Your Eon magic skill will increase if you succeed in 5 successful Eon Manipulation actions, or train extensively with a superior eon manipulator twice.
Time Displacement Specialist: Take a +1 to any attempt to send something foward in time.
Budding Fire Manipulator: You will gain the fire manipulation skill if you succeed in 2 fire manipulation actions or train with somebody who has it
Aspiring Water Manipulator: You will gain the water manipulation skill if you succeed in 6 water manipulation actions, or train extensively with somebody who has it
Fire Manipulation Utility Theory: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using non-destructive fire magic
Fire Manipulation Combat Theory: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using fire magic to destroy, kill, or maim
Bug Speaker: You do not suffer an untrained skill penalty for using animal empathy on bugs

Reproductive Perks
Mature: You are physically and mentaly capable of converting and impregnating mates. To do so you must spend a "Gift" perk. "Gift" perks can be gained by rolling very high, learning new skills, or through other supernatural means. If you create a child it may be born with some traits of it's mother in addition to whatever gift you use to conceive it.
First Gift: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have your four physical features. Gifts that grant more than two traits are rare, so this may be worth saving for somebody special.
Gift of Displacement: Can be spent to convert or impregnate a mate. The night troll created will have the ability to blink forward short distances through time and/or space.

Recipes:
Drought of Perception Blotting: Causes the drinker to become invisible to members of a single sentient race unless the drinker tries to get their attention or is pointed out to them.
-1 Brain of the Race you wish to be not noticed by
-1 Fistfull of ash from burned oak
-1 1 Large Mug of digestive juices from a mammal

Hmmmm,
I have a plan
 
Leap, catch Vindel, send us both in a future for several hours

But I am not sure about it myself, because many things can go wrong

You start focusing a time Displacement spell on yourself before kneeling down and springing at Vindel. The elves turn to look at you and you slam into your target, wrapping your arms around him as the two of you fall to the ground. The guards move in to assist their master, but suddenly everybody except Vindel and yourself vanishes in a green flash. 1d20 = 11 + 4(Skill) + 1(Perk) + 1(Tattoo) - 3(Trying to cast while multitasking) = 14

You briefly check the sun over your shoulder, you seem to have jumped 3 or four hours. Unfortunately Vindel takes advantage of your brief distraction and begins to struggle against your grip! The Elf manages to free his arm and produce a dagger from his robes, which he jams into your chest!

Luckily Night Troll's don't feel pain, and better still he seems to have missed any major organs, but something is wrong. You knock the dagger away but your movement begin to slow down and your body begins to feel numb. You catch a glance of the dagger, and notice that it is covered in enchanting runes! Within 30 seconds you find yourself completely paralyzed.

His Roll: 1d20 = 20 - 3(Untrained Skill) = 17 (NAT 20!)
Your Roll: 1d20 = 4 - 3(Untrained Skill) = 1 (Ouch!)

Vindel cuts a piece off his cloak, which he wraps around your eyes to blind you. Time passes and your hunger grows. You hear voices at time to time, and suspect that you are being moved.

---

Eventually you get some feeling back and note you seem to be on some sort of cold stone floor. You feel somebodies breath on your face, and your body being scanned by somebody with Night Creature Empathy.

"Holy shit. This is a Night Troll Vindel! A mature night troll! Those should be extinct! My own grandfather was one of the sages who helped purge them from the earth. You should kill it quickly, it is beginning to regain muscle control."

You hear Vindel chuckle. "I don't think that will be unnecessary Hamar. Remove your blindfold and rise Mr. Troll."

Without so much of a thought you climb to your feet and rip the cloth from your face. You are in a basement of some sort. Roots extend from the ceiling and down the walls, so you must be under some sort of great tree. You are face to face with another elf mage, and Vindel stands not to far behind him. Your clothes and stuff are in the corner.

Vindel smirks and begins to walk toward you. "Allow me to offer a proper introduction. My name is Vindel. As you might have guessed by now I am a mighty enchanter. You are familiar with my dagger, no?"

Without breaking his stride or changing his tone the elf draws said dagger and jams it into the back of the other mage, who falls to the floor immobile. "Impressive, no? Allow me to draw your attention to another one of my creations; the bracelet I have placed on your wrist. It is a bracelet of binding, cursed to prevent removal. As long as you wear it you will obey my commands and not harm myself or my belongings."

"Oh. Wonderful."

Your new master nods, unaware or willfully ignorant of your sarcasm. "I know, isn't it? Anyway, as my first order to you, I command you to eat that fool Hamar who lies before you alive. I'd rather him not go about telling the whole forest about our new professional relationship."

You start feasting. You probably would have even if you had the choice. You do you best to eat the non essential bits first, keeping him alive and enjoying his fear for as long as possible. Eventually you reduce him to little more than a skeleton and Vindel hands you a large cloth, instructing you to wipe the blood from yourself.

As you clean up Vindel stands next to you, beaming with some sort of sick pride. "You come across as rather formidable. I think I will treat you well just in case you ever escape and turn the tables. So tell me, what talents do you have to offer me? I did notice that Eon Manipulation trick. Rather impressive."