Assign your migrants their jobs the moment they arrive on the screen one by one. Why the hell doesn't anyone do this? SERIOUSLY, WHY?
Ok, you can do that. But, you can also load up a simple program which organizes all your migrants in a spreadsheet format, allowing you to see what labors you are short on, and quickly re-apply labors as you see fit, while being able to easily visualize the big picture. It would be nice if DF allowed that on its own.
And those spread sheets would completely ruin the atmosphere for me. That's why I don't use them; it's also why I would support the IG manager fulfilling this role for the casual overseer. It'd be a useful tool that doesn't detract from the stories behind DF. The prospect of having to check between my Dwarves and spreadsheets is too horrific for me to behold.
Well if you're getting bored in a sandbox, it's probably not for you.
I'm bored with the minutia of assigning jobs to 50 migrants at once.
Protip: Don't.
Indeed. You press (j), press (PGUP) and see a nice neat list of your Dwarves doing nothing. Like I said, old city. 2 buttons used. HOW SHOCKING INTERFACE IS BAAAAD.
I addressed the flaws with this already, the problem here is you're just adding jobs as needed, leading to a big inefficient mess for yourself down the road, when half your dwarves have a mess of labors assigned. Once again, I direct you to dwarf therapist. There's a neat list for you. Also, nice strawman you're building there yourself.
The game of dwarf fortress is not where you press 'u', scroll through to find the dwarf who isn't doing anything, and assign him a job.
Methinks you should look up the definition of strawman. The above was a direct response to what you said.
1. Personal advice - don't add jobs as needed, plan accordingly.
2. Failing that, why the hell do you care about idlers if you're going to complain about them actually working!
3. You've done nothing but complain about the community and the UI of DF.
If I make a strawman that coincidentally addresses the "UI faults" you brought up, well, that's a damn fine strawman, or else a completely valid counter-point.
I could imagine the IG manager replacing therapist in the future.
Ok, so after all the hyperbole, you actually agree with me.
You think I'm disagreeing with you for the sake of it? Hell no. If there's an in game function that'll let me turn 100 farmers into 100 masons, chances are I'll probably use it to make some diabolical mega farming project. For now, I have patience; and will continue to play the game as it is intended - a Fortress of specialists working in concerto.
Well rounded to the nearest 3 significant Jifoduses, I've lurked here for 0.125 Jifoduses as opposed to Damiac's 0.005 Jifoduses. That's a huge gap, with one person saying they've seen terror and confusion with fanatical ASCII cultists sacrificing newbies in their cruel and wicked rituals, whilst the other is saying this is all kerfluffle and nonsense. I think I'd say someone who's observed more would have a more valid perception. What with, you know, perceiving more and not seeing this in action.
Sort of speaks for itself, I think. Hyperbole and strawmen all around.
1. Satire - yes, it used exaggeration, but it's not hyperbole. Hyperbole would imply I wasn't making a serious point, satire is me exaggerating your witch hunt for the mystic UI destroyer lurking ever present in Bay12.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Satire <- Enjoy
2. Strawman, no.
Of course, explaining the joke removes its inherent humour, but it must be so.
You are saying I am making strawmen, I am saying I was responding to this;
Just because you've been here (x) amount of time rather than (y) amount of time doesn't actually mean your personal perception of the community is more valid than anyone else's
In which I made it clear I was saying why yes, my perception is more valid. Because put simply, my total time spent lurking divided by Jifodus's (Bay12's #1 lurker) compared to yours equates to 72 and a half days for me and 3 and a half days for you.
As a result, I've seen a lot of threads - of which I can say I've never seen what you've described.
So don't try to shut people down when they make suggestions to make it better.
/move to suggestions board, feel the juffowaps/
If you feel insulted, maybe it's because you pretty much match the type of community member I was complaining about.
I'm advocating worse UI and am crushing all attempts by Toady to improve the game's UI to empower my ego and sense of intelligence at mastering button mashing? Because I am speshulest snowflahkie?
Not following you there. If you would like to criticize me, be constructive about it. Like Kuki. Insulting people then calling them out for being insulted seems kind of silly too, but I guess you need to talk about
something.But maybe I was unnecessarily harsh toward the community. I think we're both a little right here.
I don't. You made a whole lot of strawmen and started off rambling about how damn awful everyone here is when it comes to progressing through the development of the wonder that is DF. You were overly critical of whatever Mr. Mysterious oppressor was saying (Population:0), and could have answered all of your questions with the effort it took you to make this thread, by searching for the relevant information yourself. Or even just asking the forum where you could find this information.
Instead, this.
To that end, we, as his testers and target audience (if he could be said to have such a thing) can make his work even better, by highlighting its flaws, and suggesting ways to make it better.
Aye, on the suggestions board. After making sure such a thing has not already been acknowledged... MULTIPLE TIMES!
To say something could be better is not an insult, it shows that you care about that thing.
To insult a fanbase is not an insult... No wait, it is an insult.
His work only stands to suffer by having this community shout down the people who bring up valid complaints, especially when they make suggestions to improve on those issues.
Search-fu to find sauce. There is no shouting here, only methodical breaking down of invalid complaints, and rounds of applause for the greatest original suggestions to grace the upper boards.
I only make posts addressing the community because it truly is one of the best communities I have ever seen on the internet. I apologize if you feel I have insulted you.
If you feel insulted, maybe it's because you pretty much match the type of community member I was complaining about.
Cheers
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