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Author Topic: Prison Architect - Version 2.0 Release | It's over! *weeping*  (Read 246897 times)

tryrar

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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #705 on: September 01, 2013, 12:45:22 am »

well damn, having only 2 presses and saws doesn't pump out money quick enough to really let me recover my funds from my building spree. This is especially important as my prison seems to be boiling over, and I need to figure out remedies.

Also, this might be a bug, but it seems my prisonors aren't changing clothes, even though I have a staffed laundry going. What gives?
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #706 on: September 01, 2013, 01:22:59 am »

Laundry is a really messy and buggy affair...that is common sadly
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #707 on: September 01, 2013, 04:44:45 am »

You might need another laundry room if you've got a crapload of prisoners. There's only so much laundry the maximum amount of workers can process. I don't know if it's dependent on laundry carts as well, but prisoners having to go long ways to deliver laundry is also an issue, especially the more prisoners you have to clothe.
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #708 on: September 01, 2013, 05:33:42 am »

It clearly isn't QUITE ready for purchase.

of course not, alpha 13 and stuff :D

I hope it will get better, but probably won't be till after the release that the dev team will start debug issues on more complexcrazy fort design
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #709 on: September 01, 2013, 08:32:31 am »

More laundry rooms equals all your laundry baskets in one of them. This seems to be true for any workplace. Want two cantinas? Only one of them will get food trays.
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #710 on: September 01, 2013, 08:36:41 am »

Would be interesting if one of the elements they added was prisoner wealth...I mean would be interesting to have some rich business man bribe you to build him a luxury cell or something of the sort
Italian Job much?
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #711 on: September 01, 2013, 08:43:40 am »

Would be interesting if one of the elements they added was prisoner wealth...I mean would be interesting to have some rich business man bribe you to build him a luxury cell or something of the sort

or something like gangs and "prisoner interest groups"? i.e.:

one "wealth seeking" prisoner has the desire to pile up wealth so he runs around stealing stuff. maybe another prisoner gets angry because he stole something from him and confronts the wealth guy with his fists.
then the wealth guy "talks" to some muscled prisoners of the "fitness room" group (who mostly spend their freetime in the fitnessroom) to be his "bodyguard" forming a little 3 man group who mostly stick together when possible.
maybe he steals again from the guy who first confronted him, but this time the 2 muscle prisoners guard him and beat the other guy up a bit.
the beat up guy might talk to his 3 "laundry group" friends and a little riot breaks out in the yard between the wealth guy and the laundry guys... all that causes the whole cellblock A where both groups live in to be on lockdown for a while...
the lockdown might cause the claustrophobic prisoner (he mostly spends his freetime in the yard), who didnt had anything to do with the riot but who lives in the same cellblock, to go kind of crazy and talks to the "religious group" (a few guys who mostly pray in the church) for help... the religious group is also a secret major drug smuggling group and gets the crazy guy on drugs for money... what might cause him to smuggle stuff to the "wealth group" for money to buy more drugs from the religious group... etc.

maybe groups are build slowly when prisoners are often in the same areas or their cells are near eachother.
or prisoners with similar interests (religion/fitness/books/wealth) could form groups.
or prisoners who are working in the same area (kitchen/laundry/cleaning/etc) form groups.
or prisoners with similar criminal history could form groups based on that i.e. theft/drugs/murder/etc.
or prisoners who dont like what you do to them group up against the prison.

and maybe more evil/criminal groups start as "secret/hidden" from the player i.e. the religious drug smuggle group and it would take a while of observation and investigation to find out such a group exists in your prison. or a group who wants to try to riot, or a group who wants to dig out a tunnel together to breakout.
other groups could be more public like the muscled fitness group who always stick together at yardtime and go to the fitnessroom in their freetime. well or the public religious group who is hiding that they are drug dealers too.

maybe groups could even "demand" stuff from the player... i.e. the religious group wants 5 more bookshelves in their church to make them more happy... (and to have more books to smuggle the drugs around your prison).
or the fitness group wants a bigger fitness room with 6 workbenches.
and you can either fullfill the demands or not with different results. (maybe a bit less drug smuggling because they dont get more books.)
or the groups could bribe the player/guards/administration. (i.e. the wealth guy might bribe the guard of his cellblock to lockdown prisoners who did lend money from the wealth guy but cant pay their loans. and the player might not get informed of this... the player might just see a guy locked in lockdown for no reason and has to investigate whats up.)

different groups could also like and hate different other groups... maybe they mostly try to stay in their own groups and as far away from other groups at i.e. yard time the groups group up away from eachother in different corners or stick to the same table at lunch etc.
depending how much they dislike eachother they could bully the other guys or blame them for something or have fights.


groups could add a ton of interesting stuff to the game... it could also open up room for new buildings i.e. fitnessroom/church/pool(?)/libary... just imagine the "prison tv series" and how people group up in there.
« Last Edit: September 01, 2013, 08:49:28 am by Nelia Hawk »
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #712 on: September 01, 2013, 11:29:40 am »

Maybe I am wrong but I think they have mentioned fleshing out the contraband "economy" as time goes on...they recently put in a supply and demand model for it sooo yeah
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #713 on: September 01, 2013, 04:39:37 pm »

well damn, having only 2 presses and saws doesn't pump out money quick enough to really let me recover my funds from my building spree. This is especially important as my prison seems to be boiling over, and I need to figure out remedies.

Also, this might be a bug, but it seems my prisonors aren't changing clothes, even though I have a staffed laundry going. What gives?
Prisoners will get undressed for designated shower time but not if they just want to shower during free time in my experience.
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #714 on: September 01, 2013, 05:45:44 pm »

Maybe I am wrong but I think they have mentioned fleshing out the contraband "economy" as time goes on...they recently put in a supply and demand model for it sooo yeah

Full compartmentalization and segregation is definitely a bullet point on the development list.
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Cautivo del Milagro seamos, Penitente.
Quote from: Viktor Frankl
When we are no longer able to change a situation, we are challenged to change ourselves.
Quote from: Sindain
Its kinda silly to complain that a friendly NPC isn't a well designed boss fight.
Quote from: Eric Blank
How will I cheese now assholes?
Quote from: MrRoboto75
Always spaghetti, never forghetti

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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #715 on: October 02, 2013, 10:52:00 am »

V.14
To be known from here on out as "GRRRRRRRRR"
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a13) - Can I borrow your rock hammer?
« Reply #716 on: October 02, 2013, 10:55:23 am »

is a doggy lookitit
So pudgy.
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« Reply #717 on: October 02, 2013, 11:05:31 am »

is a doggy lookitit
So pudgy.
I wouldn't point and stare at the dog like *bites your finger off*
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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a14) - Now with more PUPPIES!
« Reply #718 on: October 02, 2013, 06:54:00 pm »

ok WTF every time I let ANYONE out of their cell, they make a break for my double-set of gates and try to break them down, to the point where my guards are doing NOTHING but putting them back to their cell, and/or escort them to the infirmary. The hell's going on??
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No. I suppose there are similarities, but I'm fairly certain angry birds doesn't let me charge into a battalion of knights with a car made of circular saws.

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Re: Prison HYPHEN Architect (v. a14) - Now with more PUPPIES!
« Reply #719 on: October 02, 2013, 09:16:36 pm »

MOAR GATES!
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