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Author Topic: Trees, man.  (Read 36077 times)

i2amroy

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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2012, 01:00:00 pm »

I'm /hoping/ that he will implement it in such a way that, when 'chopped', a tree 'falls' away from the woodcutter but must then still be chopped up into usable logs. So it would become a sort of horizontal version of its standing self and can then be chopped up or just becomes items ready to be hauled away.
On a side note, woodcutters now crushing fortresses left and right as trees fall on top of them. ;)
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2012, 01:02:04 pm »

I KNEW IT THE TREES ARE OUT TO GET US

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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2012, 01:03:12 pm »

I quite like the idea of 'Dwarven Lumberjacking' actually involving digging beneath the tree and then removing a key support causing it to crash into the depths.
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2012, 01:14:56 pm »

Multi-level trees and fruit?  Badass.

However, I can't make sense of the screenshots.  It's going to take me a while to "see" the trees.  Right now I just see a bunch of walls and pillars, now I have to train myself to see them as "trees".
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« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2012, 01:56:21 pm »

Ever since I heard multi tile trees were coming at some point in the future, I have wanted to make watchtowers by digging a staircase in the center of the trees trunk. I hope felling trees turns them into long horizontal caveins, since that seems like the most natural way to do it.

If the trees keep growing after world gen, I think they could avoid breaking buildings in them by simply turning some leaf tiles into branches and branches into thicker branches. Any constructions at the top of the pentagon treetop tiles would still be in danger though.

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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #20 on: September 24, 2012, 02:23:58 pm »

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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #21 on: September 24, 2012, 02:26:43 pm »

Nice look, and I'm rather looking forward to it.  I wonder if trees will die if you tunnel out their roots, or if the roots will themselves grow into your fortress. 
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #22 on: September 24, 2012, 02:29:29 pm »

I'm all for the tree felling idea. I have high hopes that Toady won't make it like Minecraft or something, and that trees will actually fall on their side. I can imagine that the process involves designating one tree, and designating which direction it should fall. Low level woodcutters have a chance of felling it in the opposite direction. Trees disasterously falling on dwarves/animals/constructions will be so much !!FUN!!
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #23 on: September 24, 2012, 02:40:06 pm »

I'm all for the tree felling idea. I have high hopes that Toady won't make it like Minecraft or something, and that trees will actually fall on their side. I can imagine that the process involves designating one tree, and designating which direction it should fall. Low level woodcutters have a chance of felling it in the opposite direction. Trees disasterously falling on dwarves/animals/constructions will be so much !!FUN!!

That would be absolutely amazing. Tree felling would give us limitless options for weaponizing them. I'm mulling over all the new and ironic ways to kill off elves as we speak.

Which just reminded me - elf sites are back! We'll crush them with their own houses! :D
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #24 on: September 24, 2012, 02:56:08 pm »

Adventure mode tree felling escapades.

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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2012, 04:21:18 pm »

Ever since I heard multi tile trees were coming at some point in the future, I have wanted to make watchtowers by digging a staircase in the center of the trees trunk. I hope felling trees turns them into long horizontal caveins, since that seems like the most natural way to do it.

If the trees keep growing after world gen, I think they could avoid breaking buildings in them by simply turning some leaf tiles into branches and branches into thicker branches. Any constructions at the top of the pentagon treetop tiles would still be in danger though.

I'm looking at the pictures right now. Some of the trees' trunks are at least six z-levels high. I'm sure they will be navigable so you could create a tree fort like something from Endor. If what you suggested is true, how do you think Dwarfs will be able to hollow out the tree? Will the wood inside be usable? Would the tree whither and die? It will be interesting to see.
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #26 on: September 24, 2012, 04:24:16 pm »

Relevant:
http://mkv25.net/dfma/map-11402-trees_slope

I uploaded the second one onto DFMA, so you can all see what the trees look like sideways.

Anyway, I'm most curious about weaponization. I bet we can light them on fire then tip them on oncoming sieges. Holy shit next release will be epic.
I'm all for the tree felling idea. I have high hopes that Toady won't make it like Minecraft or something, and that trees will actually fall on their side. I can imagine that the process involves designating one tree, and designating which direction it should fall. Low level woodcutters have a chance of felling it in the opposite direction. Trees disasterously falling on dwarves/animals/constructions will be so much !!FUN!!
This makes sense. I can already imagine entire embarks wiped out by idiots.

Note: Tree farms will need to be reworked. Damn. That'll take some time. On that note, will this be the end of trees growing for no reason in our passage ways?
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #27 on: September 24, 2012, 04:37:03 pm »

The first tree-related bug Toady will "accidentally" let slip through: giant mushrooms pushing through layers of rock, destroying precious gems and ores while also making your halls unwanderable.

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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #28 on: September 24, 2012, 04:42:11 pm »

The trees didn't choose Elves, the Elves choose them. The whole hatred of trees because Elves worship them is like disliking Dogs in real life because Hitler owned one. Elves are simply a race of short, pointy eared, immortal creatures that worship trees. While Elves themselves are horrible creatures, basing hate because they like trees is, well, baseless. A fort could not survive without some form of trees; and before you say mushrooms, I believe Elves count them as trees.

Now excuse me as I try to figure out a way to become magma proof from the incoming shouts of blasphemy and attempted magma executions.
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Re: Trees, man.
« Reply #29 on: September 24, 2012, 04:48:25 pm »

Fruit trees?

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