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[NAV]

My goblin's name is Snodub Baldlamp.
He travelled to the dwarven kingdom to seek peace.
The dwarf king had better ideas.

[BFEL]

awww no mods....it would be interesting if prospective gladiators could be of any race (I have a custom race I would want to throw against you all )

[Eric Blank]

On one hand, it is entirely possible and indeed easy to actually USE mods and custom races. On the other, they'd have to be screened and tested by whoever is managing the fights to ensure they're on the same level as the vanilla races combat-wise, or it would become very unfair, very fast.

However, it is entirely possible to use any of the animal man races or many of the various other organic, living humanoids included in vanilla, because those species aren't all that exagerated skills and abilities wise. Some of the animal men may be rather large or pathetically small, but that's not as big a factor as starting with some natural combat skills or highly exagerated attributes/immunities.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Let the GM test some suggested species against the base races in the arena and see what he says. Maybe he'll disallow them, maybe he'll let them in with modification or higher price, the worst he can do is say no.

So...let's chat about races we'd like to see priced.
--Badger Man
--Iron Man
--Cat
...Any others you can think of?

[NAV]

kobolds of course!

[IamanElfCollaborator]

Moogles.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Moogles.

Mind linking to the moogle mod?

[IamanElfCollaborator]

I'll submit raws later. Doing this at 3 am on my phone, no access to my PC yet.

[Geen]

I demand to be a platypus man and/or a sponge man.

[GreatWyrmGold]

If you were a sponge man, you'd suffocate pretty fast.

[Firehawk45]

Firehawk
Human (60)
Copper twohanded sword (68)

2 Points in dodger (30)
2 Points in swordsman (30)

gimme the tiger wolf!

(Thanks for the math lesson Ishar, I did read over the whole "times the multiplier" thing. That comes from not being a native english speaker )

[BFEL]

If I could, I would use this, because its amazing just had my first successful fight in adventure mode with it...AGAINST FIVE BOOGEYMEN....I survived because the Thoht can regen from any wound, as long as they aren't outright struck down, also I apparently passed an evil biome while run-healing cuz he turned into a wicked murk thrall in the middle of this fight....and then proceeded to tear the boogeymens limbs off with his talons
Granted if he let me use this it would prob be horribly expensive since it IS overpowered...I didn't intend for it to be, I wanted it fast but not extremely tough or strong and it just came out horribly powerful for no reason XD well just wanted to share this one.

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creature_thoht

[OBJECT:CREATURE]

[CREATURE:THOHT]
[DESCRIPTION:A immense glacial tribal race, feared for their unnatural regenerative powers and strange morals, respected for their great honor and skill as trappers.]
[NAME:thoht:thoht:thoht]
[CASTE_NAME:thoht:thoht:thoht]
[CREATURE_TILE:'@'][COLOR:4:1:2]
[CREATURE_SOLDIER_TILE:154]
[BIOME:GLACIER]
[BIOME:TUNDRA]
[BIOME:TAIGA]
[INTELLIGENT]
[CANOPENDOORS]
[EXTRAVISION]
[ALL_ACTIVE]
[NO_EAT]
[AMBUSHPREDATOR]
[AT_PEACE_WITH_WILDLIFE]
[CURIOUSBEAST_GUZZLER]
[CURIOUSBEAST_EATER]
[FLEEQUICK]
[LOCKPICKER]
[MISCHIEVOUS]
[NO_DIZZINESS]
[NO_SLEEP]
[NO_THOUGHT_CENTER_FOR_MOVEMENT]
[NONAUSEA]
[NOSKULL]
[NOTHOUGHT]
[NOBONES]
[PREFSTRING:unsettling appearance]
[PREFSTRING:immense size]
[BODY:HUMANOID:NOSE:4LUNGS:HEART:ORGANS:HUMANOID_JOINTS:THROAT:NECK:3FINGERS:3TOES:MOUTH:FACIAL_FEATURES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_MATERIALS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_TISSUES]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:VERTEBRATE_TISSUE_LAYERS:SKIN:SPONGE:MUSCLE:CARTILAGE]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:TALON:NAIL_TEMPLATE]
[USE_TISSUE_TEMPLATE:TALON:TALON_TEMPLATE]
[TISSUE_LAYER:BY_CATEGORY:FINGER:TALON:FRONT]
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[PLUS_TISSUE_LAYER:SKIN:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[TL_MAJOR_ARTERIES]
[SELECT_TISSUE_LAYER:ALL:BY_CATEGORY:ALL]
[TL_HEALING_RATE:1]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:STANDARD_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_HEAD_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RIBCAGE_POSITIONS]
[BODY_DETAIL_PLAN:HUMANOID_RELSIZES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:SINEW:SINEW_TEMPLATE]
[TENDONS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:5]
[LIGAMENTS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:SINEW:5]
[HAS_NERVES]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:BLOOD:BLOOD_TEMPLATE]
[BLOOD:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:BLOOD:GAS]
[CREATURE_CLASS:GENERAL_POISON]
[GETS_INFECTIONS_FROM_ROT]
[USE_MATERIAL_TEMPLATE:PUS:PUS_TEMPLATE]
[PUS:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:PUS:GAS]
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:STRENGTH:600:700:800:900:1200:1300:1500]                 -
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:AGILITY:1800:2250:2750:3000:3850:4200]                   +++
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:TOUGHNESS:700:850:1150:1250:1400:2250:2400]              +
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:RECUPERATION:5000:5000:5000:5000:5000:5000:5000]         max
[PHYS_ATT_RANGE:DISEASE_RESISTANCE:1:50:75:100:125:150:200]              ---
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:PATIENCE:450:950:1150:1250:1350:1550:2250]               +
[MENT_ATT_RANGE:WILLPOWER:1000:1550:1800:2250:2500:2800:3500]            ++
[BODY_SIZE:0:0:6000]
[BODY_SIZE:1:0:55500]
[BODY_SIZE:3:0:85000]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:75:95:98:100:102:105:125]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
[BODY_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:75:95:98:100:102:105:125]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:500]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:LIP]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:THICKNESS:50:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_NOUN:lips:PLURAL]
[APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:55:70:90:110:150:190]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:NOSE]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
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[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:LENGTH:25:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:30:60:90:110:150:190]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:UPTURNED:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:CONVEX:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[APP_MOD_NOUN:nose bridge:SINGULAR]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:SKULL]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HIGH_CHEEKBONES:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROAD_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:JUTTING_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:SQUARE_CHIN:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:THROAT]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:DEEP_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:RASPY_VOICE:0:70:90:100:110:130:200]
[SET_BP_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:HEAD]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:BROADNESS:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
[APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
[BP_APPEARANCE_MODIFIER:HEIGHT:90:95:98:100:102:105:110]
[APP_MOD_IMPORTANCE:700]
[APP_MOD_DESC_RANGE:91:94:98:102:106:109]
[NATURAL_SKILL:DODGING:7]
[MAXAGE:40:60]
[ATTACK:PUNCH:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:GRASP]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:punch:punches]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK:KICK:BODYPART:BY_TYPE:STANCE]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:kick:kicks]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:SECOND]
[ATTACK:SCRATCH:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:GRASP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:TALON]
[ATTACK_SKILL:GRASP_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:snatch at:snatches at]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:90]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY_MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[ATTACK_FLAG_CANLATCH]
[ATTACK:SCRATCH:CHILD_TISSUE_LAYER_GROUP:BY_TYPE:STANCE:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:TALON]
[ATTACK_SKILL:STANCE_STRIKE]
[ATTACK_VERB:snatch at:snatches at]
[ATTACK_CONTACT_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_PENETRATION_PERC:100]
[ATTACK_FLAG_EDGE]
[ATTACK_PRIORITY:MAIN]
[ATTACK_FLAG_WITH]
[BABY:1]
[CHILD:2]
[EQUIPS]
[HOMEOTHERM:9990]
[SWIMS_LEARNED][SWIM_SPEED:500]
[MANNERISM_FINGERS:finger:fingers]
[MANNERISM_NOSE:nose]
[MANNERISM_HEAD:head]
[MANNERISM_MOUTH:mouth]
[MANNERISM_KNUCKLES:knuckles]
[MANNERISM_LIPS:lips]
[MANNERISM_CHEEK:cheek]
[MANNERISM_NAILS:nails]
[MANNERISM_FEET:feet]
[MANNERISM_ARMS:arms]
[MANNERISM_HANDS:hands]
[MANNERISM_LEG:leg]
[MANNERISM_LAUGH]
[MANNERISM_SMILE]
[MANNERISM_WALK]
[MANNERISM_SIT]
[MANNERISM_BREATH]
[MANNERISM_POSTURE]
[MANNERISM_STRETCH]
[MUNDANE]
[CASTE:FEMALE]
[FEMALE]
[LAYS_EGGS]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGGSHELL:SOLID]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_WHITE:LIQUID]
[EGG_MATERIAL:LOCAL_CREATURE_MAT:EGG_YOLK:LIQUID]
[EGG_SIZE:400]
[CLUTCH_SIZE:1:2]
[CASTE:MALE]
[MALE]
[SELECT_CASTE:ALL]
[SET_TL_GROUP:BY_CATEGORY:ALL:SKIN]
[TL_COLOR_MODIFIER:BROWN:1:BURNT_UMBER:1:CINNAMON:1:COPPER:1:DARK_BROWN:1:DARK_PEACH:1:DARK_TAN:1:ECRU:1:PALE_BROWN:1:PALE_CHESTNUT:1:PALE_PINK:1:PEACH:1:PINK:1:RAW_UMBER:1:SEPIA:1:TAN:1:TAUPE_PALE:1:TAUPE_SANDY:1]
[TLCM_NOUN:skin:SINGULAR]

[Wrex]

Your prices are a bit..jacked up. Not complaing, since I can game it pretty easily. But bronze/Iron are roughly equal for weaponry, so bronze being so cheap makes no sense. As does the massive price discrepancy between short and long swords, as the diffrence is "Completely chopped of" and "Artery, tendon, motor nerve, sensory nerve severed". Also, why no wood/leather shields?



So!

Goblin (60 gold)
Copper scourge (28 gold)
Copper buckler (28 gold)
2 points in Lasher (30 gold)
2 Points in Doger (30 gold)
1 Points in Shield user (10 gold)

Total: 184 gold. First fight, Wolf.

[smakemupagus]

Your prices are a bit..jacked up.

FWIW, I'm pretty sure he's using the standard DF value formula.
http://dwarffortresswiki.org/index.php/DF2012:Item_value#Weapon

[Ishar]

Firehawk
Human (60)
Steel twohanded sword (68)

5 Points in dodger (50)
2 Points in swordsman (20)

gimme the tiger!

Problems with your math: a steel twohander is not 30+38, it's 30*38 - waaay over the starting budget.
Skill upgrade costs increase with each level, so skill level 1 is 10, and adding one to that is 20, etc. So level 5 would be 10+20+30+40+50=150, level 2 would be 10+20=30.