I am attacking a position that he seems to be saying he holds
If you can show me where he gives an actual position and not 2 pages of "Are you sure you're not
a lazy bum who enjoys being poor?" then I will address that instead.
Pretty sure I've never said that. You seem to be reading between the lines to come to conclusions of your own, and missing out on the things I'm actually intending to communicate.
Here is where you said it:
So, let me ask you a question:
Do you want out? Do you want what you said here, to be able to pay your bills and give your daughter two consistent wants every month? Do you want the $25,000/yr that you say would allow you to easily have a happy lifestyle?
Do you want it?
Or...and I apologize, but it must be asked...or do you want to complain about why you can't have it?
Or are you still going to pretend that "you were only asking questions"? Because we all, including you, know that you weren't, and your attempts to deny it just further cements what a dishonest arse you are.
That is true. I was not "merely asking a question." I was
seeking an answer. And the fact that he
never answered the question is very revealing.
1) This reiterates a point I've made a couple times in this thread. It seems like some people just want to whine and complain about the rich. If all you want to do is whine and complain, and you're unwilling to actually
do anything...what do you expect anyone else do for you? Sometimes people just need to vent. Girls do this a lot, actually. They want to complain. They
don't want you to come in and try to "fix" their problem. Girl complains, guys tries to fix it, girl gets upset because he's not listening and is trying to change her and that's not what she wants. She just wants to let off steam. If you guys just want to complain, then go ahead and complain. That's fine. But if you're just going to complain and you're not actually interested in doing anything
other than complain, then yeah...I'm going to call you on it. And that's what I'm doing. I'm calling some of you out of the fact that you're just whining and complaining.
2) I was giving him an opportunity. If he said yes, he wanted it...I was going to offer to help him get it. However, you'll notice that he did NOT say that he wanted it.
If somebody is standing on a street corner, loudly proclaiming that if only they had a dollar they could take the bus, and it's so terrible that they have to walk...then somebody comes by and says, "do you want a dollar?" and instead of saying yes they
ignore that person completely (note that Max never even responded to my post) and continues his speech about how terrible his situation is...do you really expect the guy to give him the dollar? No, he's going to keep walking because there's obviously some emotional drama being played out. The guy doesn't actually want help.
You can complain all you want about morality, but I've seen this enough times to be fairly convinced that a lot of people in bad situations don't really want out. I don't completely understand it, but a lot of people choose to stand in burning houses and refuse to leave. And if you come by and say, "hey...umm, the exit's over there. You could, you know...walk out, instead of standing here burning to death." ...very often they refuse to walk out and just continue screaming.
I gave him an opportunity. He didn't take it. And a few of you saw the opportunity I gave him and chose to attack me for it.
This is why I have little sympathy, and this is why my very first post in this thread was talking about all the emotional
baggage that some people have about money. If you just want to play out your silly dramas, that's fine. But if you want your life to be different, then stop complaining and start paying attention. There might be ways out of the burning building. But it's difficult to see windows of opportunity when you're busy running in circles screaming.
it just further cements what a dishonest arse you are.
Excuse me, but read the language here. I was polite. I was apologetic. You're the one engaging in name calling. "Do you want X or do you just want to complain that you don't have it?" is a legitimate question, and it merits an answer. Sometimes people do want to complain. Letting off steam, complaining, venting anger is a very real, totally legitimate thing that people often want to do. And so much of what I'm seeing in this thread is telling me that's all several of you want to do and I'm probably wasting my time even participating in the thread.
For you to take offense at the question, for you to interpret it as some kind of stealth insult...there's not much I can say here. Go ahead and lead your life. I'll lead mine. *shrug*
This is basically LordBuckets problem in a nutshell. He just knows the world better than everybody else.
He's just more intelligent, more experienced, wiser, more worldly than other people
I advise you to stop trying so hard to find ways to take offense. Stop playing out the "I am inferior" emotional drama and decide what you want in life then go find a way to make it happen.
That's my advice. What you do with it is entirely up to you.
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