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[Urist Imiknorris]

You make it sound like a tactical thing.

So? It more or less is.

No it isn't. You vote who you think is scum. Unless you are scum, in which case voting is more or less a tactical thing. Thank you for admitting your scumhood.

[Teneb]

Tiruin: Regarding your kill, you've pretty much said that the target is Zrk2. However, what happens if Zrk2 is lynched today? Does the kill get a new target, is it canceled or is simply wasted?

Query: Why are you so interested in that kill?

What, you expect to claim that you're going to kill someone and not attract intrest?

[TolyK]

TolyK:

By the way, about UI:

Think:
Not getting killed would be sufficient. As an SK in BYOR9, I was focused on staying unnoticed. Once I decided to be more active about my killing, I got counterkilled instantly.

This seems to be what you're doing this game as well, to some extent.
What are your scumpicks now that Web's found out as town and Think as evil third party?

To what extent?

Not sure. You don't seem very active. Although the lurker tracker says you have 21 posts, you haven't really caught my attention.

I generally don't like voting for people I'm not very sure I'm scum. I had (and have) my ideas, but none of them are really strong enough.
I should FoS more, though, I keep forgetting that there's that.

Well, seeing that my card was on Think's body when he died, I guess he stole it from me and then was killed.

Why don't you like voting for people you're not very sure are scum? (Also: Freudian slip)

Also, judging from your answer about your suspicions, you don't/didn't really have any at all. Why not?

As for my suspects, my biggest ones are Zrk2 (for reasons stated above) and you at the moment.

I don't know why I don't like voting for people I'm not very sure are scum. Probably because I feel guilty when it turns out that we lynched town.

I do have suspicions, I've already answered that/said that. I'm not 200% sure their scum (obviously), not 70% either, and typically that's below my threshold from "ask many questions" to "beep beep this dude's so totally scum". But Zrk2 is my lynch candidate of people, and after that it starts getting blurred. Probably Book and Toaster, though I haven't dissected some recent posts yet.

I'll be back with some post-intestines, just gotta finish some homework now...


PPE:

Apologies, I've been away. I'll catch up and make a post tomorrow.

Please do.

[Leafsnail]

Mod, votecount, please.

No changes since the last one.

[Zrk2]

You make it sound like a tactical thing.

So? It more or less is.

No it isn't. You vote who you think is scum. Unless you are scum, in which case voting is more or less a tactical thing. Thank you for admitting your scumhood.

That's what I meant. I was going back to decide who was scummiest so I could vote for them. Surely that falls under the definition of "tactical."

Mod, votecount, please.

No changes since the last one.

I've been missing too much. Hopefully tomorrow I'll be more present.

[Leafsnail]

5 votes required to lynch.  4 votes required to no lynch.  Deadline is 1:15am GMT time, on Thursday the 20th of September.

Votecount:
Book (3): Toaster, Tiruin, Hapah
Zrk2 (3): TolyK, Urist Imiknorris, Deathsword
Deathsword (1): Zrk2
Not voting (1): Bookthras

3 votes required to extend, 3 extensions remaining.

All players have posted since the last mod update.

[Bookthras]

Again, apologies for lack of posting. I'll be away through the weekend, with very little chance to post. Leaf: if you think it'll help the game, I'm OK with being replaced.

I found only one question pending for me:

Haha.  Please, tell me; what exactly am I trying to get the town to go along with?

At the time, wuba's plan. That was clear from context: I thought he was pushing for a coordinated D1 plan, and your "coordination works, listen to wuba" seemed to me like you were trying to get the town to go along with it.

Book: You've got questions pending.

Please link me. That's the only one I saw.

Can't do a full reread at the moment, but I find the wagon on Zrk2 rather puzzling; I'd appreciate it if those voting him could briefly restate your case. Toaster, Tiruin, Hapah: please briefly also restate your case on me.

[Toaster]

UI:

That's rather an extreme edge case, isn't it?  I can counter your counter with a case where such a thing backfired badly.

On the contrary, you reinforced my counter by providing another example of nonscum bluffing.

It's still almost always a bad idea.  A better supporting point would be RL1 where a townie fakeclaimed the Priest class and successfully WIFOMed the scum team.  (But that's all irrelevant.  If he makes a claim and it's proved to be false, he's a liar and should hang.  Until then, it's pretty much a null tell.)


Book:

I found only one question pending for me:

Haha.  Please, tell me; what exactly am I trying to get the town to go along with?

At the time, wuba's plan. That was clear from context: I thought he was pushing for a coordinated D1 plan, and your "coordination works, listen to wuba" seemed to me like you were trying to get the town to go along with it.

And what plan is that?


Basically, you are scum because of your giant and continual misrepresentation of Web's and my points about town coordination.

[TolyK]

We're at a tie... is this good or bad? Lynching no-one would allow more night play to happen, but potential killers/scum would be able to do their things. If Tiruin really has a kill, then Zrk2's probably dying this night. If he doesn't, we'll have questions for Tiruin. It's possible that a mafiakill will happen as well, if there is such a thing in this game, so we could be down two people this night.

If folks suspect Book enough, it might be a good idea to lynch him and see if Zrk2 dies this night. But I think we should give him time to 'splain.

But Extend as I probably will be sleeping IRL when the day ends...

[TolyK]

EBWODP:
Book: He changed stances on the Wuba thing, first seemingly supporting it then joining the bandwagon when people pointed something out to him (mostly Toaster iirc). Then he didn't read Wuba's posts (his 'main suspect') fully to see that his questions were answered, and even later when we started pressing him on that he stuck to a part of what he said before. I might be a little bit off, but that's basically the case.

[Toaster]

Zrk2 is my second choice, so I would break the tie in his favor.  I should be able to check quickly before day ends to see if no one else has voted Book.  (I'd much rather he hang.)

[Hapah]

PFP

Book: This post

http://www.bay12forums.com/smf/index.php?topic=115758.msg3607604#msg3607604

[Urist Imiknorris]

Can't do a full reread at the moment, but I find the wagon on Zrk2 rather puzzling; I'd appreciate it if those voting him could briefly restate your case.

He voted web right after he got called out on FoSing him without voting, and he FoS'd him in the first place right after he got questioned on his support of web's view. His stated reason for voting web was that web hadn't come up with a D1 plan, which is totally unreasonable because there was nowhere near enough information available for anyone to come up with a plan.
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[Toaster]

So no one else will break it?  Fine.

Zrk2.  He's been self preservationist and trying to put words in my mouth as well as his reactionary voting on Wuba for some of the same fictional reasons that Book is spouting.

[Zrk2]

You've forced my hand. I hate to do this, but unvote, vote Book.

If it'll help here's a roleclaim:

King of High House Death: Let's me talk with one dead player over the night. [1 shot]

Knight of High House Dark: (4/3) For one night it can transform into a 10/10 creature.

Assassin of High House Shadow: (1/1) When it attacks if I name a creature held by that person then it dies and this card survives.

Magi of High House Dark: (2/6) If it survives an attack then I learn the names of all cards summoned by the person I attacked.

Master of the Deck: It can give any card that is still in play to the player I name. [1 shot]

I have summoned the Magi of High House Dark.