Toaster:And you saying my vote is a bandwagon does not make it so- I put it on you because you aren't paying attention.
How isn't it a bandwagon? It would have gotten me lynched, in your words, "for not paying attention" - that doesn't sound like you building a case on me, lynching me because you think I'm scum, it sounds like you clinching a mislynch with a wagon vote a few hours before end of day and little justification.
Hmmm... given that, it seems I'm hanging today. Oh well, such is life. When I flip town, please keep the following thoughts in mind:
a) Toaster: your miller thing sucks. There's no way some people failed to listen to me or decided to vote me because they thought I may be fakeclamining it, which makes a first post miller claim just as poisonous as a lack of a claim until the late game (provided no inspections).
b) Town: Toaster is scum. Imiknorris may or may not be, but my gut says he is. Do with that what you will.
Point A and above is a veiled appeal to emotion. No one has mentioned your claim in any case against you, so pointing it out here is meaningless, except for the "Woe is me!" factor. Point B lacks justification- a major deficit since you were putting this out here as your last word.
Correct, at the time I thought those would be the last words, so I couldn't spend much time on justification for B, we'll do that now. For A, "woe is me", certainly, but not appeal to emotion - I'm wasn't appealing, I considered the matter settled. Pardon me for last minute dramatics, I think they are fun.
So, my strongest scum gut feeling is for Toaster. My strongest case (such as it is, I admit it's not much, but he's certainly scummy) is on Imiknorris, but I'm less than 100% on him. My other suspicion is Hapah, for his lack of involvement in the actual game (has posted, has talked, but has actually done nothing for a week). I think Hapah is also scum.
Why do you trust your gut over your case?
At the time I wasn't going to list down the actual case on you, so I just cited gut. By what seemed to be end of day, I came to the conclusion you were more likely scum than Imiknorris, based mostly on gut & your bandwagon vote. Imiknorris is also scummy, but I think you are scummier, and the case is above (your decisive bandwagon vote 12 hours from day end with no justification beyond "pay attention").
I have no reservations about this vote at this point.
Out of curiosity, please restate your case: is it that I'm not paying attention? (I disagree that UI had answered the question earlier, but never mind for now) Or is it that I trusted my gut? Or something else?
Hapah:I think Toaster is being a little too aggressive pushing Book (2nd block in Toaster's last post), but he does have a very valid point that Book is voting on his gut and not the evidence. I don't see why that should be, considering Toaster and UI have the same number of votes if you take off Book's. I might be missing a moved vote or something, though.
(Book: See above. Can you explain what makes a "gut feeling" vote on Toaster a better option that an evidence vote on me or UI?)
See above. At the time, I didn't have the opportunity to enunciate a case, I just wanted town to know my top picks before I died. Toaster's reaction to my press of Imiknorris, his carefully timed bandwagon vote, and his doubling down now all seem sufficiently scummy to upgrade from "gut" to "case" (or "gut+case" if you prefer).