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[GuesssWho]

happiness and consciousness and empathy are chemichals and morals are artificial constructs that, idealy, help more of us survive and be happy. the universe is meaningless and pointless without people inventing a meaning and a point. the fact that the meaning and the point of the universe is artificial instead of inherent and natural shouldn't make a difference, though

If the universe if pointless, being happy is equally pointless. If people don't have souls their experiences don't matter. If awareness is a meaningless accident then it doesn't matter if we live or die. If there is nothing after death then nothing we do matters, because no one will know about it eventually.

Just saying.

Now can we stop having this depressing conversation and get back to funny stupid people? I want funny stupid people.

[MonkeyHead]

happiness and consciousness and empathy are chemichals and morals are artificial constructs that, idealy, help more of us survive and be happy. the universe is meaningless and pointless without people inventing a meaning and a point. the fact that the meaning and the point of the universe is artificial instead of inherent and natural shouldn't make a difference, though

If the universe if pointless, being happy is equally pointless. If people don't have souls their experiences don't matter. If awareness is a meaningless accident then it doesn't matter if we live or die. If there is nothing after death then nothing we do matters, because no one will know about it eventually.

Just saying.

Now can we stop having this depressing conversation and get back to funny stupid people? I want funny stupid people.

Must... resist... urge... to... argue...

[Devling]

happiness and consciousness and empathy are chemichals and morals are artificial constructs that, idealy, help more of us survive and be happy. the universe is meaningless and pointless without people inventing a meaning and a point. the fact that the meaning and the point of the universe is artificial instead of inherent and natural shouldn't make a difference, though

If the universe if pointless, being happy is equally pointless. If people don't have souls their experiences don't matter. If awareness is a meaningless accident then it doesn't matter if we live or die. If there is nothing after death then nothing we do matters, because no one will know about it eventually.

Just saying.

Now can we stop having this depressing conversation and get back to funny stupid people? I want funny stupid people.

Must... resist... urge... to... argue...

[MaximumZero]

happiness and consciousness and empathy are chemichals and morals are artificial constructs that, idealy, help more of us survive and be happy. the universe is meaningless and pointless without people inventing a meaning and a point. the fact that the meaning and the point of the universe is artificial instead of inherent and natural shouldn't make a difference, though

If the universe if pointless, being happy is equally pointless. If people don't have souls their experiences don't matter. If awareness is a meaningless accident then it doesn't matter if we live or die. If there is nothing after death then nothing we do matters, because no one will know about it eventually.

Just saying.

Now can we stop having this depressing conversation and get back to funny stupid people? I want funny stupid people.

Must... resist... urge... to... argue...

I'm right there with you, bro.

[Xantalos]

happiness and consciousness and empathy are chemichals and morals are artificial constructs that, idealy, help more of us survive and be happy. the universe is meaningless and pointless without people inventing a meaning and a point. the fact that the meaning and the point of the universe is artificial instead of inherent and natural shouldn't make a difference, though

If the universe if pointless, being happy is equally pointless. If people don't have souls their experiences don't matter. If awareness is a meaningless accident then it doesn't matter if we live or die. If there is nothing after death then nothing we do matters, because no one will know about it eventually.

Just saying.

Now can we stop having this depressing conversation and get back to funny stupid people? I want funny stupid people.

Not exactly. It's more like playing a video game. Let's take Minecraft as an example. Nothing you do in Minecraft really has a purpose. You are cast adrift in a seemingly infinite world with no direction, no guidance, nothing. But you can make something out of it. You can make a house; a spaceship, a fortress. Anything, really. Life without a diety is kind of like that. You may not have a guiding voice telling you what to do, but that gives you the freedom to do whatever you want. You're independent at the cost of not having that base, that certianity that dieties give you. I don't see the universe as being pointless and cruel just because I don't have an omnipotent paretn telling me what to do so I can help with their vision of the world.
I can make my own.

[Askot Bokbondeler]

If the universe if pointless, being happy is equally pointless. If people don't have souls their experiences don't matter. If awareness is a meaningless accident then it doesn't matter if we live or die. If there is nothing after death then nothing we do matters, because no one will know about it eventually.

all of that is absolutely correct, don't know where everybody else is getting their urge to argue.
being happy is pointless, but i do love being happy so i want to continue that way. empathy is also simply a biochemical thing, but it exists and i have it, so i'd like that everybody else be happy too

[Flying Dice]

I won't. I suppose I'm too weak.


The universe or the life of an individual not having an inherent purpose is not the same thing as purpose or meaning not existing. We define our own reasons for being, and simply by existing and experiencing the universe, even as a series of illusionary representations, we give meaning to our lives. The fact that we will all die and eventually cease to exist even in the memory of others does not mean that our lives cannot have importance. This is only depressing if you refuse to acknowledge the possibility of someone creating their own meaning rather than deriving it from the fact that they were created by some sort of formless infinite mind.

I exist. I value my life, my thoughts, my experiences, and my emotions. Even though I recognize on a very basic level that my entire existence is ephemeral, a blink of the cosmic eye, I still believe that it is important. My existence has value because I think that it has value.

[frostshotgg]

Can we just get a ban on atheism/religion stuff in this thread? It certainly seems like there's always something that it'll offend and then start a pages long debate over "omg god isn't real" "omg yes he is" "fuck you nhilist exisistentialits fuckwad" "i believe in science bitch" etc etc*. It's really awkward for an onlooker who really doesn't care to debate that sort of thing.

*These are caricatures for the purpose of making a point. I'm not saying any of this is ever used as an argument.

[Xantalos]

Uhh...MUSIC! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c71RCAyLS1M

[GuesssWho]

Point.

So. I read a NotAlwaysRight where some looney lady decided she didn't have to pay her library fines because she was righteous. That was funny.

[frostshotgg]

"I was so drunk I tasered myself in the balls"
http://www.fmylife.com/health/20559522
Really, just most of fmylife. There are some impossibly stupid things on that website.

[GuesssWho]

http://notalwaysright.com/time-to-sign-up-for-delivery-by-delorean/23569
http://notalwaysright.com/no-id-ea-who-is-hiding-under-there/28183
http://notalwaysright.com/been-to-hells-angels-and-back/28072

[Flying Dice]

If we're going to start quoting NAR, might as well post a link to the top stories. 

[Loud Whispers]

Point.

So. I read a NotAlwaysRight where some looney lady decided she didn't have to pay her library fines because she was righteous. That was funny.

The Metro a while back published some of the reasons people gave the TFL for jumping train fares.

My favourite was:
"I AM A FREEMAN OF THE LAND, YOUR FINES DO NOT APPLY TO ME."

[GuesssWho]

Brilliant, just brilliant LOL