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[EuchreJack]

But yeah, $40 that you can only use online (presumably with shipping and handling of about $9 in many cases) is garbage.  A gift card for McDonalds or whatever is the largest convenience store would be better.  But hey, free money is free money I guess...

Cost of living, my dude. Maybe $9 is a reasonable amount for you to pay in shipping, but if it always costed at least $9 where I live, no-one would buy anything online. Or use the postal system at all, for that matter. Just pretend that the price of shipping is negligible. It isn't if I'm buying lots of small knickknacks from multiple sellers (thus causing the price of shipping to accumulate), but that's an edge case.

Actually, those are reasonable rates in the US, if you don't get the shipping and handling waived somehow.  I would totally have to pay $9 to have something shipped that I paid $20 for.  Granted, the key is to either find the seller that waives shipping and handling, or the product that is worth $30+ and pay the $9.

Back to your question, in the US, a lot of stores have an online store where you can buy stuff, even pick it up at their physical location.  That might be the best option for you.  Buy stuff "online" that you'd ordinarily purchase at the store, and pick it up at the store.

[methylatedspirit]

Actually, those are reasonable rates in the US, if you don't get the shipping and handling waived somehow.  I would totally have to pay $9 to have something shipped that I paid $20 for.  Granted, the key is to either find the seller that waives shipping and handling, or the product that is worth $30+ and pay the $9.

I apologize for not putting this upfront, but I'm not in the US. I live somewhere that's poorer than the US, hence the lower cost of living. I just write in American English to confuse people, and I used US dollars as a reference point and to obfuscate where I actually live.

Shipping and handling costs are shown upfront by my local shopping platforms, and the costs are all bundled into one single fee. There is no distinction between shipping and handling; they're treated as one and the same. It's quite cheap, too. Even buying dumbbells doesn't get you to $9 equivalent in S&H where I live. They're negligible.

Back to your question, in the US, a lot of stores have an online store where you can buy stuff, even pick it up at their physical location.  That might be the best option for you.  Buy stuff "online" that you'd ordinarily purchase at the store, and pick it up at the store.

If only I could exit my campus willy-nilly. Lockdown happened, you get me? I'm pretty sure buying stuff online and picking it up physically is a bit too frivolous for the university staff to accept as a valid reason to go outside. Especially when there's a perfectly good post office on campus ready to act as a storage place for sent items.

[EuchreJack]

Sorry about the full on lockdown.  Needless to say, the term Lockdown isn't quite so strict in the US.  Here, it just means some stores are closed.  Even during the worst of it, I could still leave my home if I wasn't quarantined. And to be fully informative, even if I was quarantined, there wasn't much enforcement.

[scriver]

English speakers, on a scale from 0 to "Fuck you", where in spiciness would you place "Up yours"?

Please mention which english you are of in case of differences

[Frumple]

Most sorts of american english I've ran into, it's about the same level as fuck you, maybe a bit tamer. It's... basically the same sentiment, y'know? Just less versatile.

[wierd]

English speakers, on a scale from 0 to "Fuck you", where in spiciness would you place "Up yours"?

Please mention which english you are of in case of differences

Central US, American English--

8 to 8.5 out of 10

I consider "Fuck You" to be a 9, with 10 reserved for "Fuck you, and everyone you know" / "Fuck you and the horse you rode in on" being closer to 10. (That is to say, bland "fuck you" is not the apex. It gets more creative and intense with added invective, when you approach 10. EG, "Fuck you" is a 9, "Fuck you, Mother Fucker" is 9.5-ish-- et al.)

[methylatedspirit]

English speakers, on a scale from 0 to "Fuck you", where in spiciness would you place "Up yours"?

Please mention which english you are of in case of differences

I have no clue which dialect of English I use. It's a mix of American and British English (+ whatever I'm influenced by), biased towards American. I'm not even sure which place's accent it most closely resembles. I just throw all the English sentences that look correct into the mind's blender and blend them together into an abstract paste.

I'd rate it a "strongly not recommended in polite company", but still below a "do not use" (these are my own personal judgements, mind you). It's like "fuck you", but just a bit lower, when you don't want to tell someone to have sex with themselves, but to instead tell them to shove something up their ass. No word on how sexual it is. I think "up yours" is the most vulgar fixed phrase that doesn't contain a swear, unless if "up" and "yours" are both swears now.

-snip-

Is there any swear that is equal to 10 on your scale, rather than just approaching 10? Anything above 10?

[wierd]

Hard to say.  A perfect 10 is the singularity at the end of the spectrum. Hitting it would require the alignment of not only the epithet itself, but also its intended recipient's base nature.

Calling a preacher's wife a "Fucking Cunt" would be pretty close, for instance.

The same epithet used on, say, a "Chad" (Or for the Aussies among us, a "Bogan") might register as only a 6 or so, and be laughed at.

 

[scriver]

I think "up yours" is the most vulgar fixed phrase that doesn't contain a swear, unless if "up" and "yours" are both swears now.

This was actually the exact thought that caused me to ask the question by the way

[None]

You could try 'get bent' if 'up yours' lacks sufficient offense. They're both the sort of thing I'd expect to hear from something rated PG-13. I'd give either one maybe a 1/3 a 'fuck you,' if that's more helpful.

[EuchreJack]

Usually, a "Fuck You" is higher on the scale if it is followed by the word "with"
American EST.

"Up Yours" is a straight 6.  As above, it need more description to be any higher.  Bart Simpson says "Up Yours".

For example "Up your butthole with an eel" rates hire than a 6.  A 6.3 perhaps.

[Vector]

I think it depends on the situation. "Up yours" is offensive, but I don't think it's quite as offensive as "go die in a fire," specifically because it's a set phrase. I think it also depends on whether the speaker would ever under any known circumstances say 'fuck you." It could be that "up yours" is their maximum and therefore it becomes more powerful.

(Edit: California)

[MetalSlimeHunt]

You'd probably be able to put "Get bent" in a show for older children, but not "Up yours", so there's a metric for it.

[EuchreJack]

On a related issue, never say "I'm going to [insert violent act here]" or you'll get arrested.  "I'd like to [insert violent act here]" can get you arrested, although it is arguably lawful.  And remember, people WILL misremember what you say, so for example the "Go die in a fire", when transcribed by the listener to the cop, magically turns into the criminal "I'm going to push you into a fire".  Do you have a witness? Do they believe them over you?  Reasonable doubt is great, except it's not your reasonable doubt.  It's whatever impossibly high standard for finding reasonable doubt that the Judge/Jury has for the case.

So while more specific is certainly more vulgar, it also skirts the line of what is lawful to say to a person.

[King Zultan]

I think "up yours" is a 4 or 5 on a the scale of shitty things to say to people.