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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6165 on: August 31, 2020, 09:41:23 pm »

And even then, is there a way to stress all the parts of the brain, sorta like a brain version of Prime95, to measure the brain's peak power consumption?
There's probably some drug cocktail or another that could manage it or something fairly close, sure.

Only problem is I'm pretty sure people just die before peak stress is actually achieved. Human brains don't exactly like being particularly overclocked, more or less. You can do it but the brainmeats don't work very well under too much pressure.
or heat. Question: Out bodies being hardware, are our thoughts/reactions/actions software then? I mention actions since to do them processing needs to take place
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6166 on: August 31, 2020, 09:52:18 pm »

Some of it's probably about as close to software as wetware gets, I guess. Others probably wouldn't be, there's still thought/action responses we have basically no control over and can't be easily (or at all without brain damage or somethin') manipulated (other than being triggered to begin with, I guess), iirc.

From what I recall the distinction between hardware and software gets fuzzy when you're talking biological stuff, especially considering there's still a lot we just don't understand well (or at all). Compsci jargon, being developed around stuff we explicitly constructed, doesn't really map super well to talking about brains... so far, anyway.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6167 on: August 31, 2020, 09:56:51 pm »

The relationship between the brain and the mind is not fully understood. We have a lot operations understandings - specific things that we can do to the brain that can produce specific results in the mind, even very complex results in some cases. But we don't really have a good answer as to why consciousness exists at all or how the brain's operations create and maintain a state of consciousness.

We know that consciousness isn't strictly linked to memory or even to cognition, as is particularly obvious in cases of extreme mental illness impairing those things. We know that we're chalk full of reactions to stimuli, some of which are completely vestigial like the dysfunctional version of earthquake sense that doesn't work on earthquakes and mainly seems to make people have panic attacks in a certain infrasound band. We know that the brain constantly redevelops itself based on activity of use, and this is why feral or extremely abused children tend to be so screwed over and why old people descend into dementia if they don't keep themselves active.

We know that we have a lot of memory in computer terms, and that our actual memories are rewritten by the brain every time they're remembered, gradually artifacting them into obscurity. We know the brain doesn't operate on the same principles as a computer, even if there are orthogonal similarities. And we certainly know that simplistic evopsych analytics do not explain the wholeness of human behavior, which is often consistent but yet sometimes radically strikes out and defies predictions, even though we also know there is very little likelihood anything like free will actually exists. 
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6168 on: August 31, 2020, 10:22:09 pm »

What MSH said.

Also, NG, you might like the book Godel, Escher, Bach: an Eternal Golden Thread: a Metaphorical Fugue on Minds and Machines. It's really tricky to summarize, but maybe you can get an idea from the title.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6169 on: September 01, 2020, 01:18:17 am »

Hearing this bird (Or something that sounds like one) right now. I live in the UK and it's morning. It produces a call somewhere halfway between a hoot and a whistle. I guess like a single drawn out (2s), higher pitched hoot followed by a sudden drop in tone right before it ends. Anyone know what bird it could be?
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6170 on: September 01, 2020, 02:32:23 am »

A dove? Or a pigeon? Depends on how lovely the sound is, I guess.   
Actually, I'm not sure about the "drop in tone" part. I haven't heard a dove or a pigeon in a while.   
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6171 on: September 01, 2020, 03:26:32 am »

Only pigeons I know of around here are wood pigeons, which have that sort of "hoohoo-hoohoo" call.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6172 on: September 01, 2020, 07:01:27 am »

Do you live at the coast or inland? In a city or in a woods?
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6173 on: September 01, 2020, 07:08:32 am »

Probably in a house, scriver.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6174 on: September 01, 2020, 07:44:10 am »

Probably in a house, scriver.
well yes, but where the house is located can give an idea as to the bird Great Order is hearing
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6175 on: September 01, 2020, 07:53:26 am »

A bird outside their house.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6176 on: September 01, 2020, 08:02:25 am »

Either record said bird's song and share it, or take a picture of said bird.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6177 on: September 01, 2020, 08:04:28 am »

The pigeons I actually heard have a call that's more like a very soft... Purring or even gurgling. Sometimes a bit like a soft, drawn out "coo coo". Barely audible usually.
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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6178 on: September 01, 2020, 08:08:35 am »

A bird outside their house.

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Re: The small random questions thread [WAAAAAAAAAAluigi]
« Reply #6179 on: September 02, 2020, 06:55:54 pm »

GEB is great. 

The summary is: if you have a system (math, logic, etc.) of a certain expressive capability and consistency (as in, logical consistency, not is it like soup), that system can have "properties" that are true that you can't (mathematically) prove to be true.

Regarding brain power consumption: I'm pretty sure brain power consumption estimates are based on respiration and blood flow, supported by thermal imaging.

It is pretty fascinating what the brain can do on so little power though. Especially when ADAS systems in cars pull on the order of kW and they aren't nearly as adaptable as the human brain.
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