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[Iduno]

Yeah, I've always heard it was stress-related eczema.

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[wierd]

Both and neither.

(Discretely prods toward Baudrillard's seminal text.)

[Great Order]

Looks like it is dyshidrosis. It also answers the question of what the hell that rash I had about 10 years ago was after using a certain moisturiser.

[scriver]

Kobold blisters

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[MetalSlimeHunt]

Simulacra and Simulation is...well, it's not the worst philosophy I've ever read. Actually the ideas in it are pretty amazing but Baudrillard is a fucking bastard about conveying them, so you're really best off reading the book and then immediately watching The Matrix trilogy and playing MGS2 to try and absorb it.

[wierd]

It's not really buadrillard's fault.  The english version text is a translation from French. French has about umpteen billion ways to say the same thing, with subtle twists and turns that can completely flip the literal intention 180 degrees, depending on how it is used.

The translator did the best they could to translate from French.

For what it is worth though, "Difficult to read" is not the right phrase. The subject matter is evocative-- Once you grok what is attempting to get put across, you will see it EVERY DAMN WHERE-- but "Getting there" is difficult, when the text rambles and recurses on itself, in meta-comentary of the subject it is meant to convey.

[scriver]

Are people in the states or otherwise abroad from me just as confused about who is chip and who is dale of chip and Dale as we are about Piff & Puff here in Sweden?

[hector13]

I thought Chip was the one with the hat and Dale was the one in the Hawaiian shirt.

[Naturegirl1999]

If I remember correctly, Chip and Dale are the two chipmunks that like to steal things

[hector13]

They were Rescue Rangers, actually.

[Kagus]

I thought Chip was the one with the hat and Dale was the one in the Hawaiian shirt.

Yep; Dale is the one with the red nose.

They were Rescue Rangers, actually.

Well in the original cartoons, they were pretty mischievous and stealy... Also naked

[Reelya]

Simulacra and Simulation is...well, it's not the worst philosophy I've ever read. Actually the ideas in it are pretty amazing but Baudrillard is a fucking bastard about conveying them, so you're really best off reading the book and then immediately watching The Matrix trilogy and playing MGS2 to try and absorb it.

It's probably not the best to try and understand that theory through The Matrix. A lot of people can't seem to understand the nuances. EDIT: had to look this up to check, but Kagus mentioned that someone responded to a mention of Simulacra and Simulation with a critique that rejected the Simulation theory of reality. Without having read it of course. Pointing people at The Matrix is just likely to make the dumber and more ill-informed rather than as a jumping off point to understanding the nuances of Baudrillard's work.

The real point is that our symbols are the simulation, since we interpret the world through our symbols and by manipulating our symbolic representations. The really ironic part of this is someone rejecting Simulacra and Simulation based on a misunderstanding that this has something to do with the living-in-acomputer-simulation theory of reality. That person has heard some new information out of context, and immediately and assertively slotted that (incorrectly) into their existing internal model. Which is kind of what Simulacra and Simulation is all about. Saying "the ideas are explored in The Matrix" is more likely to lead people to believe that Simulacra and Simulation is just a book claiming that The Matrix is actually real rather than saying that The Matrix explores the ideas.

[Rolan7]

They were Rescue Rangers, actually.

I honestly thought it was the male Hooters-like place, but apparently that's spelled differently.