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[GreatWyrmGold]

My point is, we need some other ship to take us to Mars and the asteroid belt. It needs to be reusable, easily maintained, and capable of keeping a few thousand people alive for...let's say two years, several months minimum but the two years gives us time for the asteroid belt operations.

[Zanzetkuken The Great]

My point is, we need some other ship to take us to Mars and the asteroid belt. It needs to be reusable, easily maintained, and capable of keeping a few thousand people alive for...let's say two years, several months minimum but the two years gives us time for the asteroid belt operations.

The sheer cost of utilizing one ship would be enormous, and it would jeopardize the entire mission.  Therefore, I propose that we send multiple rockets with 100 people or so to keep costs lower and so that one catastrophic failure does not end the entire mission.

[10ebbor10]

My point is, we need some other ship to take us to Mars and the asteroid belt. It needs to be reusable, easily maintained, and capable of keeping a few thousand people alive for...let's say two years, several months minimum but the two years gives us time for the asteroid belt operations.

The sheer cost of utilizing one ship would be enormous, and it would jeopardize the entire mission.  Therefore, I propose that we send multiple rockets with 100 people or so to keep costs lower and so that one catastrophic failure does not end the entire mission.

Actually, the more rockets you use, the more your operation costs. For instance, you're going to have to carry much more weight (engines, and stuff) and loose much more energy and need more hull material (square cube law). The bigger your ship is, the cheaper the operation becomes, and the larger the survival chance of the people inside.
 
You only get a launch frame every 2 years, so traveling in a group or travelling in one ship doesn't really matter. The proposed 250 man orbiter ship is reuseable, and has it's own build in lander.

Also, unless you're using Vasimirs, 2 years are not going to be enough to go to the asteroid belt and back.

[miauw62]

Are we entering B.O.O.Z.E. territory? There will be an A.I., but it is best to have powerfull political figures remain organic so they can appeal to the masses. We could make a backup of their brain, by taking a random migrant, erasing his brain and then uploading the leader's brain.

[GoombaGeek]

GUYS

Do not go for the diamond planet.

Diamonds are worthless crystals that are only valuable because of monopoly control - when word gets out that you're hauling fifty tons of perfect diamond back to Earth, the value would plummet astronomically (haw haw).

Instead, to make money on Earth, build a nuclear goods company. Mine and enrich uranium, preferably in international waters or Lichtenstein. Blast off to space with nuclear rockets (nobody will care, because you're in international waters/Lichtenstein). Set up an asteroid-mining operation on a sizable asteroid like Pallas, get more uranium, enrich it in space, and launch from there. Nuclear power will work for your base and additional rockets, bringing the right materials will allow you to build more rockets while already in space. Rocket around, collecting valuable minerals (platinum! bonus is that you can use it for labware) and materials necessary for your space base.

This way, your Earth business will be profitable, it will make even more profits once you start asteroid-mining, you can seamlessly switch to space mode once you've developed rockets and you'll have a self-sufficient space base with the means of making more self-sufficient space bases.

[10ebbor10]

GUYS

Do not go for the diamond planet.Is there a diamond planet? I prefer my insanity sligthly logical, not completely random.

Diamonds are worthless crystals that are only valuable because of monopoly control - when word gets out that you're hauling fifty tons of perfect diamond back to Earth, the value would plummet astronomically (haw haw).

Instead, to make money on Earth, build a nuclear goods company. Mine and enrich uranium, preferably in international waters or Lichtenstein.Nuclear goods embargo. The US has the habit of invading/ embargoing anyone who has nuclear capabilities and doesn't fit exactly to their whishes. International waters ain't going to save us. We're not going to get any of the needed tech, Blast off to space with nuclear rockets (nobody will care, because you're in international waters/LichtensteinInternational space treaty. Unless you're using a standard nuclear powered rocket, which only works in space.). Set up an asteroid-mining operation on a sizable asteroid like Pallas, get more uraniumAsteroids don't contain uranium or other heavy minerals. The further out you go, the lighter things become., enrich it in space, and launch from there. Nuclear power will work for your base and additional rockets, bringing the right materials will allow you to build more rockets while already in space. Rocket around, collecting valuable minerals (platinum! bonus is that you can use it for labware) and materials necessary for your space base.

This way, your Earth business will be profitable, it will make even more profits once you start asteroid-mining, you can seamlessly switch to space mode once you've developed rockets and you'll have a self-sufficient space base with the means of making more self-sufficient space bases.

[GoombaGeek]

Lichtenstein, then.

And there are multiple planets composed of graphite and diamond it was mentioned in another thread like look it up omg srsly gaiz

[10ebbor10]

Lichtenstein, then.

And there are multiple planets composed of graphite and diamond it was mentioned in another thread like look it up omg srsly gaiz

Nope. Lichtenstein, nor any of the other (European) micronations is going to save you. Really, these days nations are trying to keep a rather thight leash on things.

Besides, if you come barging in, saying we have shouldn't do anything that hasn't been planned, mentioned or referenced at all and follow on by stating a plan that looks similair to what we were already planning, only with several errors and illogicalities in, you can expect people to be confused.

Despite common believe, not everyone reads every page of the forum.

[Vorthon]

Lichtenstein, then.

And there are multiple planets composed of graphite and diamond it was mentioned in another thread like look it up omg srsly gaiz

Dude. Focus on getting out of the solar system before going for carbon worlds.

[IronTomato]

I agree. We should build our (Mars?) Colony first, build our own planet after a long time of terraforming, build another ship while we're on Mars, and then go even further.

No. Put the brains in spaceships. With plenty of processing power and the ability to produce humanoid avatars.

Not what I had in mind, but something like this. A Dorfputer on steroids, maybe.

[GreatWyrmGold]

I think we could make money through a combination of exporting power (solar power would be cheap to produce; a band of solar panels 5-10 meters wide around the Lunar equator would let us export tons of power and make a profit), tourism, and selling overpriced crap to the tourists. Agriculture could also be somewhat more productive on Luna due to the lack of weeds and such.

[Vorthon]

Yeah, but that's kind of canceled out by the fact that we'd have to import arable soil.

[GreatWyrmGold]

Well, we'd need to do something eventually if we wanted to attack Earth. What else would we do once the groundhogs cut off food imports, eat our own...our own...
Excrement.
We could fertilize the soil with feces!

[Vorthon]

There's no soil on the moon. Only regolith. Regolith not like soil. It is like finely ground glass shards.

[Graknorke]

There's no soil on the moon. Only regolith. Regolith not like soil. It is like finely ground glass shards.

Export incredibly fine glass paper?
I'm sure that's valuable.