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[Girlinhat]

I got my first reaction moment today. I was in a fistfight with a goblin thug that was harassing the town, and due to my fighting/situational awareness/wrestling skills, I was able to choose the option of catching a goblin's incoming punch with my left hand, a move which was then turned into a wrist lock. We'll probably make it harder to initiate wrestling from scratch, so that just jumping in and grabbing people will be hard to do without inviting a reaction against you. All in all, the rewrite is going a little slower than I'd like, but I'm continuing along with it.

Could it be such that a very agile master wrestlers could become the demon of your fortress gate once again?  Nevermind axelords, if a wrestlers can block attacks, apply locks, and shatter limbs like that then goblins don't stand a chance!

[jackbod]

Sounds good! ^.^

[Corai]

Yes, but wrestling wont be as easy anymore. It'll be harder to initiate the grapple.

[Xenos]

Yes, but wrestling wont be as easy anymore. It'll be harder to initiate the grapple.

So we will outfit our wrestlers in layers and layers of adamantine armor and clothing and let them be the shock troopers to meet the enemy charge and break their momentum as the speardwarves and axedwarves move in to mop up?

[Broseph Stalin]

Yes, but wrestling wont be as easy anymore. It'll be harder to initiate the grapple.

It's hard to hit someone in the head with a sock so hard it pierces their skull but it happens so often it rarely bares noting. Difficulty means very little to a well trained dwarf.

[Xenos]

Yes, but wrestling wont be as easy anymore. It'll be harder to initiate the grapple.

It's hard to hit someone in the head with a sock so hard it pierces their skull but it happens so often it rarely bares noting. Difficulty means very little to a well trained dwarf.

Now we need a sock corps.

[guitarxe]

I think this is in regards to Adventure mode. I'm not if this would affect Dwarf Mode wrestlers...

[GhostDwemer]

I think this is in regards to Adventure mode. I'm not if this would affect Dwarf Mode wrestlers...

Combat system is basically the same in both modes, except that you don't get to choose the exact move in fortress mode, the game chooses for you. And it mostly makes decent choices based on the odds. If wrestlers are capable of performing these maneuvers in adventure mode,  they will be capable of doing so in fortress mode.

[ledgekindred]

So we will outfit our wrestlers in layers and layers of adamantine armor and clothing and let them be the shock troopers to meet the enemy charge and break their momentum as the speardwarves and axedwarves move in to mop up?

Robes and sandals, Urist McGrasshopper.

I really hope Toady leaves some aspects of this type of grappling in, even if it means you have to be attacked first.  I want my fortress guard to be a bunch of drunken, psychotic Bruce Lees.  Catching someone's arm mid-punch and grappling it into a hold sounds like Aikido than wrestling.

Goblin 1: "What's 'ee doin' just sittin' there and smilin' fer?"
Goblin 2: "'oo cares.  Gerupp there an' stab 'im inna face."

Goblin 1 charges the dwarf sitting at the gate, calmly drinking his booze.

fwap! punch! crunch! punch! kick! aiieeee! snap!

Goblin 2 tries to saunter away before he is noticed by the short, drunken, still-smiling Dwarf-Fu expert now standing above his dead companion.

[Headhanger]

If this extends to reactions allowing you to catch an opponent's weapon, I'll be doubly excited.

And if our legendary wrestler dwarves can pluck arrows out of the air like grapes... well, I think I might just have to sit down for a while.

[Reudh]

More likely they'll be hit in the face and die horribly, as arrows tend to do to dwarves.

But I like this. I haven't ever bothered with wrestlers since I started DF after the wrestler nerf.

[kujpat]

I miss the days of wrestlers being absolutely overpowered against undead.

Having two or three wrestlers wreck swarms of undead horses by pulling of their heads was good times for me.

[Loud Whispers]

Recruit spam. Train everyone in the military as wrestlers. Cheap, effective and painful.

[Trif]

Just keep in mind that goblins have wrestlers, too...

[Loud Whispers]

Just keep in mind that goblins have wrestlers, too...

Painful for a reason.