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firelord84

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Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« on: June 28, 2012, 12:11:30 am »

   I went a little overboard in my fractal dormitory design.  I have at least 30 more beds than I do dwarves, all assigned as bedrooms.  And I checked, all the dwarves do "own" a bedroom with a cabinet and coffer.  However, oftentimes they'll plunk down in the middle of the hallway, get a bad thought from sleeping on the ground and then complain about the noise... only to get up and go get something from the room they own! Very odd.

   I've witnessed this with both military and non-military dwarves.  I do have some squads on an alternating schedule where they have to sleep in the barracks, but they're sleeping on the ground right next to a bed assigned to be used by their squad!  This doesn't happen extremely often, but enough to be annoying and decrease some dwarves to be unhappy if they've had something bad happen recently.

     Any ideas?  I'm on 34.07.
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2012, 12:25:57 am »

Spruce up the place with some barracks and dormitories.  Could be too many footfalls, to travel to get to the bedroom, so they plop down.  I like to double my hospital beds as a dormitory.  And keep a barracks up top, near my siege area.  That's just me.  Even doing that, I still see what you report.

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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2012, 12:34:45 am »

So they're just too flat-out exhausted to walk to their rooms, eh?  Interesting idea.  Are they also discouraged by high traffic?  I have a 1x3 central staircase that is the main shaft of my fortress which can get pretty crowded with my population of 220 and all they freaking dogs and pigs.

Most people talk about catsplosions.  Well, I'm facing a pig crisis right now.  So many pigs!  I have noticed they can be milked though, which I find odd.  It's actually making milking in my fortress a full-time job.
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2012, 12:36:41 am »

What's the crisis?  The problem with cats is they adopt dwarves and then can't be butchered.  Pigs don't adopt, you can slaughter them anytime.
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2012, 12:46:57 am »

Pigs are probably pretty good in combat too. So you could pasture them near where you expect goblins to arrive. It will give them something to kill that isn't a dwarf, and will give you warning of the arrival of an ambush. Plus, bacon.
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2012, 04:11:41 am »

too bad tame animals killed in battle won't be butchered, scrap the bacon
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2012, 08:50:51 am »

1x3 is borderline for a main stairway in a big fort, 2x3 or 3x3 seems to be preferred.  It can also help if there is empty floor surrounding some or all of the stairway on each level so that dwarves can step around each other.  (Main corridors can then be either 4-wide or 5-wide.)
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2012, 11:46:23 am »

If there is a lot of bumping and reactions going on, yeah that's it.  Mabye design a more direct express lane to the bedrooms, if you can do that and curve any 90 degree corners. 

Someone here said they eat before they sleep, so try and run a mainline from the dining areas to the bedroom areas.  I cannot remember my sources, so I could be wrong about eating before bedtime.
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2012, 12:16:48 pm »

If there is a lot of bumping and reactions going on, yeah that's it.  Mabye design a more direct express lane to the bedrooms, if you can do that and curve any 90 degree corners. 

Someone here said they eat before they sleep, so try and run a mainline from the dining areas to the bedroom areas.  I cannot remember my sources, so I could be wrong about eating before bedtime.
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Re: Dwarves not sleeping in their rooms...
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2012, 09:15:56 pm »

1x3 is borderline for a main stairway in a big fort, 2x3 or 3x3 seems to be preferred.  It can also help if there is empty floor surrounding some or all of the stairway on each level so that dwarves can step around each other.  (Main corridors can then be either 4-wide or 5-wide.)

      Yeah, I finding that with a huge fortress.  My main halls are 3-wide and if I give a mass dump command, it can be chaos.  The beginning of this fort was just attempting to find a way to survive the first ambushes and invasion.  I had a plan, but I had only worked with very small forts before they got destroyed previously.  I think for my next fort I'm ready for a mega-project.

      Oh, I just breached the first cavern, but there's no magma there.  I guess I'll have to wait till cavern 3 or so for it.  I walled off the breach before anything could get through, but where I breached it about 3 z-levels above the cavern floor.  I'm planning what my cavern defensive architecture will look like now.  I'm also planning on taking my animals down into the fortress now that spores are released and I'm building pen areas in my single dirt layer.

       Does anyone know how fast cave fungus/moss grows?  Do the pen sizes in the Grazer page of the Wiki apply underground as well?
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