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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #45 on: June 29, 2012, 05:57:02 pm »

What material is best for me to use for my military's armour and weapons, short of steel or adamantine. Since I have no flux stones, all I have is the imports. That means that I cannot outfit more than one or two of my military in steel. I am ordering in steel crafts, and steel cages, and everything from steel I can as well as flux, but that will be costly. Do I stick with iron, or use another material

No flux? There should be marble somewhere beneath you.
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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #46 on: June 29, 2012, 06:01:47 pm »

Personally, I only use steel for axes, armor and swords; All the other stuff is made of bronze or copper.
Steel spears.  You forgot spears.

Spears don't have to be Steel. Steel Spears are better then bronze or iron but even a simple Copper Spear can still penetrate through stuff of higher quality. They might not penetrate through stuff as often and the wounds may be less, but they still do well enough.
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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #47 on: June 29, 2012, 07:14:42 pm »

Personally, I only use steel for axes, armor and swords; All the other stuff is made of bronze or copper.
Steel spears.  You forgot spears.

Spears don't have to be Steel. Steel Spears are better then bronze or iron but even a simple Copper Spear can still penetrate through stuff of higher quality. They might not penetrate through stuff as often and the wounds may be less, but they still do well enough.
I was referring to the fact that steel is excellent for slicing, and my spear dwarves are always severing hands, feet, arms, legs, ears, noses and, occasionally, heads.  Being able to penetrate armor to do so has to be a benefit. ;)
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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #48 on: June 29, 2012, 09:29:10 pm »

My best fort's military had nothing but bronze armor and stabby things and silver hammers. They were pretty indestructible.
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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2012, 02:23:50 am »

I was referring to the fact that steel is excellent for slicing, and my spear dwarves are always severing hands, feet, arms, legs, ears, noses and, occasionally, heads.  Being able to penetrate armor to do so has to be a benefit. ;)
There is an excellent thread about this where a Spearlord armed with a candy spear severed more limbs than an axelord with a candy axe against a bronze colossus.

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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #50 on: June 30, 2012, 02:36:05 am »

Cause you can stab a body part off :p

To the one that asked about marble, yes I did eventually find some. Although I had the same problem in a previous fort, and there was no marble at all (anywhere from surface to magma sea)
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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #51 on: June 30, 2012, 02:40:14 am »

Cause you can stab a body part off :p
I do believe it also ended in a discussion in the ways it would be possible to stab a limb off.

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Re: Steel substitute
« Reply #52 on: June 30, 2012, 03:33:10 am »

Well there you go then... You guys think of everything :p
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« Reply #53 on: June 30, 2012, 03:38:49 am »

Well there you go then... You guys think of everything :p

Im still trying to figure out how to make grenades using booze.
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« Reply #54 on: June 30, 2012, 05:46:22 am »

Well there you go then... You guys think of everything :p

Im still trying to figure out how to make grenades using booze.

And when you do, I expect to hear all about it ;) Maybe not hand grenades, but more like explosive cannonballs
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« Reply #55 on: June 30, 2012, 07:18:50 am »

Funnily enough, if I have a military capable of defeating the Goblins, I tend to get a lot of silver weapons anyway. Stupid Lashers though...
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« Reply #56 on: June 30, 2012, 10:25:16 am »

Well there you go then... You guys think of everything :p

Im still trying to figure out how to make grenades using booze.

And when you do, I expect to hear all about it ;) Maybe not hand grenades, but more like explosive cannonballs

DF still doesn't have shrapnel or explosions implemented yet. What a cave in that would make...

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« Reply #57 on: June 30, 2012, 11:46:56 am »

Well there you go then... You guys think of everything :p

Im still trying to figure out how to make grenades using booze.
Minecart full of booze barrels power rollered through magma to fill it up the rest of the way and light the barrels, then shoot it down the hallway after they are lit, but before they explode?
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« Reply #58 on: June 30, 2012, 11:50:27 am »

Quantity has a quality of its own.  Until you can get a more skilled, well-equipped military going, a giant gang of marksdwarves with wooden crossbows, leather armor and boots, and bone bolts, helmets, gauntlets and greaves can do a lot for your defense.
This strategy works great for the initial few waves, before the goblins figure out how to shoot back.
Which always seems to be the first wave for me... ::)

Well there you go then... You guys think of everything :p

Im still trying to figure out how to make grenades using booze.
Minecart full of booze barrels power rollered through magma to fill it up the rest of the way and light the barrels, then shoot it down the hallway after they are lit, but before they explode?
Unfortunately, booze doesn't explode, and hasn't in some time.
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« Reply #59 on: June 30, 2012, 02:39:27 pm »

Booze does burn though, right?  So you would get a dwarven (rum) napalm strike instead of a shrapnel attack. ;)
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