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[Ross Vernal]

Like I said, here's the planning. We are talking about having the Human side to You are a Kai Queen.

Generally speaking, I aim to start the Human campaign shortly after the first major skirmish. As would be obvious, there is a severe gap in favor of the humans, and starting the Humans now would result in my either needing to skew the dice, or a very short game in which the Humans drop some Rods from God and splatter the Aliens all over the planet.

I am open to the idea of opening the game up to multiple characters. More of a "Council" divided into different departments, where individual players make overall suggestions, but are on their own discretion as to how the agreed-upon orders are carried out.  Possibly, additional players past the starting few will be "advisory members" who, as underlings, can make suggestions, but not vote for them unless they are included by a majority vote to include them as full members.

EDIT:

The Human side is basically doing the following actions every Turn, in this order of priority:

Resource Extraction
Continue Terraforming / Terraforming Studies
Planetary Exploration
Grow Food / Generic Engineering
Robotics
Construct Living and Food Infrastructure
Reproduce
Train Soldiers
Train Scientists
Weapons Research

The Humans are completely unaware of the Kai presence. They know that the Kai exist, and have a healthy fear of them from having killed them with considerable effort at great cost during the mop-up of the Great War that took them out.

The Humans are aware of <Rival Dominant Species> and subject to their Imperial rule. It is a mutually beneficial arrangement, and incredibly corrupt. The Humans are aware of nearly all races. The Humans are galactic mercenaries, cattle salesmen (cows, mostly), and technicians  from the backwoods of the Empire; aside from that, their only real value is a single highly industrialized planet with biodiversity - alien tourism. Anything that can be obtained from there can be obtained elsewhere, and limited piracy occurs (most of it Human, and a good deal of it "legal").

Aside from that, I have very little information. There are several Colonies on Mars. Transport between Earth and Mars is roughly 40 to 90 days. The Moon is mostly terraformed and connected by multiple space elevators.

I am... not at all sure how these would interact, but this IS turn-based and the Aliens have the first Turn.

Discuss.

[10ebbor10]

Jup, in fact, You'd have to wait quite a long time. Mars's athmosphere is rather thin, and there are more than enough sattelites in it's orbits which we can use a Kinetic warheads with relative ease.

[MrWiggles]

I feel like this is half way through a conversation.

[kaian-a-coel]

Other half is somewhere else.

And yes, you'd need to wait. How long exactly it'll depend on the other side's progress.

[kingfisher1112]

What?

[Ross Vernal]

I feel like this is half way through a conversation.

Good call.

I am talking about having the Human side to You are a Kai Queen.

The relevant parts?

The Human side is basically doing the following actions every Turn, in this order of priority:

Resource Extraction
Continue Terraforming / Terraforming Studies
Planetary Exploration
Grow Food / Generic Engineering
Robotics
Construct Living and Food Infrastructure
Reproduce
Train Soldiers
Train Scientists
Weapons Research

The Humans are completely unaware of the Kai presence. They know that the Kai exist, and have a healthy fear of them from having killed them with considerable effort at great cost during the mop-up of the Great War that took them out.

The Humans are aware of <Rival Dominant Species> and subject to their Imperial rule. It is a mutually beneficial arrangement, and incredibly corrupt. The Humans are aware of nearly all races. The Humans are galactic mercenaries, cattle salesmen (cows, mostly), and technicians  from the backwoods of the Empire; aside from that, their only real value is a single highly industrialized planet with biodiversity - alien tourism. Anything that can be obtained from there can be obtained elsewhere, and limited piracy occurs (most of it Human, and a good deal of it "legal").

Aside from that, I have very little information. There are several Colonies on Mars. Transport between Earth and Mars is roughly 40 to 90 days. The Moon is mostly terraformed and connected by multiple space elevators.

[10ebbor10]

A lunar space elevator is near-impossible.

You can't construct a base station on Earth to tether the space elevator to,  it'd have to move over the entire planet. While you might be able to tether the elevator to a flying installation, that would incur enormous fuel costs, defeating the point of having an elevator. It'd also be rather unstable.

Also transport in 40 -90 days is rather fasr.

[Ross Vernal]

Imagine a whole group of short-sighted corrupt greedy people were given power and technology by equally corrupt highly advanced aliens, and had other wealthy friends  and rivals in and out of the group equally corrupt and short-sighted.

You've heard of the the space race between the USSR and the USA. Imagine that, only with a much higher technology level, between a group of people with very little morals and very great power having a penis-measuring contest in "I can own the Moon first!" that is only nominally regulated by law.

The flights are generally unmanned. A flight of Infantry would take longer for survival reasons. This is a loose average time - when Mars is further away, the trip is longer.

[10ebbor10]

Imagine a whole group of short-sighted corrupt greedy people were given power and technology by equally corrupt highly advanced aliens, and had other wealthy friends  and rivals in and out of the group equally corrupt and short-sighted.

You've heard of the the space race between the USSR and the USA. Imagine that, only with a much higher technology level, between a group of people with very little morals and very great power having a penis-measuring contest in "I can own the Moon first!" that is only nominally regulated by law.

The flights are generally unmanned. A flight of Infantry would take longer for survival reasons. This is a loose average time - when Mars is further away, the trip is longer.

Then again, it way cheaper just to build a normal space elevator than An Earth- moon one.

The moon's orbit is elliptical, which makes for a bad space-elevator anchor. Also, the moon slowly moves away from the earth, further destabilizing your elevators. In fact, I'd be surprised if the whole thing doesn't come down within the month. Also, your elevators base point would need to be at 10 km high, in order to avoid crashing into inconvenient terrain features. However at that height it would have to take care of Jetstreams and the like, resulting in the fact that it'd be cheaper and safer to just use an Apollo style rocket.

[Ross Vernal]

While I am certainly interested in knowing just how badly I am slaughtering science (really, I am, knowledge is power and I learn from mistakes), for the sake of the plot...

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Laconic/HandWave

Warning, link may ruin your life.

EDIT: You would not believe how much I have learned about plastics, smelting, various elements, Mars, and insects for this game. I know it's not a WHOLE lot, but I know so much more than I did last week.

[10ebbor10]

Just don't complain when we try to blow them up. The weight of several space-elevators crashing into the surface of both moon and Earth will eliminate a large part of the planet.

((Also, all debris will, due to the way it is constructed, land either on the moon or the Earth))

[Ross Vernal]

...Why on earth would I ever complain about my players blowing things up?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_elevator_safety

The humans are terraforming multiple planets, sending out generation ships, etc. Destroying Earth (or a lot of it) will certainly be a heavy blow, but planetary destruction will not cause species extinction.

[kaian-a-coel]

Is that the Humans thread? I feel like you're talking about annihilating them.

Also, yeah, earth-to-moon elevator is not kinda possible.

[MrWiggles]

What if you you had a geo sync orbital ring that had a tether to the moon? and also served as the counter weight for several scores of space elevators on earth?

[10ebbor10]

What if you you had a geo sync orbital ring that had a tether to the moon? and also served as the counter weight for several scores of space elevators on earth?

An entire ring would be an enormous waste of resources and an enormous danger.

Also, the moons orbit is not part of the same plane as the Earth's equator.

Spoiler: picture (click to show/hide)

The dotted line is the plane in which the Earth's space elevators find themselves, while the Moon's space elevators would find themselves in the blue line's plane.
A spaceelevator has to stand in a more or less right angle of the equator, and certainly can't change this angle, which would have to happen if you connected moon and Earth space stations to the same ring.

Also, the moons orbit is elleptical, which doesn't work well if space elevators are tied toghether.