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Re: Gaming Block (Game Discussion Thread) (Totally Not Roller's Block)
« Reply #2355 on: August 20, 2015, 04:20:28 pm »

Gestalt with tarrasque
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« Reply #2356 on: August 20, 2015, 04:22:40 pm »

Tier 3=gestalt with lower tier.

Sorry to say I don't think you can.
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« Reply #2357 on: August 20, 2015, 05:16:45 pm »

Tier 3=gestalt with lower tier.

Sorry to say I don't think you can.
There's tier four and five classes. Honestly, I think it would work better if you could gestalt with a tier three class, though.
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« Reply #2358 on: August 20, 2015, 05:31:31 pm »

Gestalt with tarrasque

Fairly certain the Tarrasque is tier 2 or so.
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« Reply #2359 on: August 20, 2015, 09:31:29 pm »

I kind of want to attempt another game on here, in modified D&D 3.5e, with the basis of a planet-traveling Stronghold that acts as a player's everything, with Diablo-level story (as in, almost none at all).  There be no town, just an inter-dimensional merchant living on the stronghold, who sells components and labour, but not any actual items, so the players would need to upgrade the Stronghold in order to actually get things they wanted.

(In my head, I've been calling it "Poorly Thought Out D&D.")
What tier would the players be?
I've been doing some extra rules for a different campaign, but I'd probably just lift a semi-gestalt thing from it.  Tier 1=banned, Tier 2=normal, Tier 3=gestalt with lower tier.  Classes are considered the Tier they are rated the highest for on "the list."  I literally haven't done anything else in regards to this idea, and I would definitely want to have rollcharts for monsters and subquests.
Could we gestalt with a monster class? I.e. Troll X ll Fighter Y?

I don't know the rules for Monsters as Classes, although I know they're out there.  Do you know the source?  If we can find the rules (and ensure they're not complete bonkers) then maybe, although I'd prefer to run the game at a low-ish level to start (3rd or 5th), so Troll would be mostly a no (again, unless the rules for Monsters as Classes helps with that.)
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« Reply #2360 on: August 20, 2015, 09:46:02 pm »

I don't know the rules for Monsters as Classes, although I know they're out there.  Do you know the source?  If we can find the rules (and ensure they're not complete bonkers) then maybe, although I'd prefer to run the game at a low-ish level to start (3rd or 5th), so Troll would be mostly a no (again, unless the rules for Monsters as Classes helps with that.)
The only ones I'm aware of are from Savage Species, and they're less rules and more of an obvious way to treat ECL as a class, with a lot of examples. Troll, for example, is 6 HD + 5 LA, so it's an 11-level class that starts with 1 HD and probably some minor stat bonuses (it might even be Medium, now that I think about it), and by the end is a full troll. The book has a breakdown, but there's no particular reason you couldn't just split it yourself.

Needless to say, this doesn't solve a great deal aside from the starting level thing, though I'm guessing if you're playing 3.5 balance is the least of your worries.
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« Reply #2361 on: August 21, 2015, 07:50:42 am »

So, guys, how would you feel about a game set in the Arms Race universe as ground troops using a slightly modified Warhammer 40K Only War system?
I just kinda have a hankering to make something like that and wanna see if people also like the idea.
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« Reply #2362 on: August 21, 2015, 08:10:15 am »

I've only heard of it through brief mention in a story- a game of it was used to get the backgrounds for the PCs in a Dark Heresy campaign- but yes, I'd be interested.
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« Reply #2363 on: August 21, 2015, 08:12:45 am »

I've only heard of it through brief mention in a story- a game of it was used to get the backgrounds for the PCs in a Dark Heresy campaign- but yes, I'd be interested.
It's this, check out the Core Rulebook one.
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« Reply #2364 on: August 22, 2015, 01:25:28 am »

I don't know the rules for Monsters as Classes, although I know they're out there.  Do you know the source?  If we can find the rules (and ensure they're not complete bonkers) then maybe, although I'd prefer to run the game at a low-ish level to start (3rd or 5th), so Troll would be mostly a no (again, unless the rules for Monsters as Classes helps with that.)
The only ones I'm aware of are from Savage Species, and they're less rules and more of an obvious way to treat ECL as a class, with a lot of examples. Troll, for example, is 6 HD + 5 LA, so it's an 11-level class that starts with 1 HD and probably some minor stat bonuses (it might even be Medium, now that I think about it), and by the end is a full troll. The book has a breakdown, but there's no particular reason you couldn't just split it yourself.

Needless to say, this doesn't solve a great deal aside from the starting level thing, though I'm guessing if you're playing 3.5 balance is the least of your worries.
Yep, it's Savage Species.

If we let a tier three class gestalt with a tier three class, I might be a Ghost Dip/Binder Dip/Evanglist (Advancing Anima Mage)? ll Beguiler Dip/Sandshaper Dip/Anima Mage. How lenient are you on that vestige that summons stuff with the supernatural template, and Naberius comboing with things that use ability damage as a drawback?
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« Reply #2365 on: August 22, 2015, 01:36:23 am »

I'm limited in my knowledge of how Binders work, don't know what you mean by Ghost (unless you mean a monster class, in which case I believe you're required to take all levels of the monster class before taking any other levels), don't know the Sandshaper, barely know Anima Mage, and don't know Evangelist.  However, the tier list says that Binder that summons things is rated as Tier 2, so it can't gestalt with anything anyway.  And no, T3/T3 would not be permitted.

I'm really unfamiliar with the intricacies of most Prestige Classes, so honestly speaking, I'd need to read up on any Prestige Class you intended to use.  As a general rule of thumb, I'll treat any casting Prestige as Tier 2, and any other Prestige as Tier 3.  With exceptions for Incantatrix and Ur-priest, as I am aware that those two are ridiculously broken.
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« Reply #2366 on: August 22, 2015, 11:35:29 am »

Ghost savage progression: five levels.

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I don't think you have to take all the monster levels in succession.
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« Reply #2367 on: August 22, 2015, 11:28:07 pm »

I'm limited in my knowledge of how Binders work, don't know what you mean by Ghost (unless you mean a monster class, in which case I believe you're required to take all levels of the monster class before taking any other levels), don't know the Sandshaper, barely know Anima Mage, and don't know Evangelist.  However, the tier list says that Binder that summons things is rated as Tier 2, so it can't gestalt with anything anyway.  And no, T3/T3 would not be permitted.

I'm really unfamiliar with the intricacies of most Prestige Classes, so honestly speaking, I'd need to read up on any Prestige Class you intended to use.  As a general rule of thumb, I'll treat any casting Prestige as Tier 2, and any other Prestige as Tier 3.  With exceptions for Incantatrix and Ur-priest, as I am aware that those two are ridiculously broken.
Nope, you can dip Ghost. Sandshaper is from Sandstorm, and adds a good selection of spells to your spell list. It's a common dip for Beguilers, due to their casting mechanic. What is your ruling on Beguilers getting Sanctified and Corrupt spells from BoED and BoVD, respectively (they're on everyone's spell list, apparently). Evangelist is based off of a feat that lets you get boons by praying to your diety in the morning, but is distinguished by the fact that at second level it gets to advance another class, and advances class features as well (for instance, a wizard's bonus feats). Have you heard of Rainbow Servant?
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« Reply #2368 on: August 23, 2015, 09:01:48 am »

I'm planning a one shot for my old IRL group, and I've decided to make it as  cliche as possible. And so, a princess has be kidnapped, but I'm unsure by whom.
The ideas I have so far are:
Evil cult
Equally evil wizard
Dark knight
Ogre/Troll/Giant
Thoughts?

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« Reply #2369 on: August 23, 2015, 09:04:19 am »

An evil cult, lead by an evil wizard with a giant knight as a second-in-command?
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