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1: NC

2: NC and TR

3: NC, TR and Vanu

[Siquo]

I try to balance it, and switch between farming and being useful

[miauw62]

DOWN WITH SEANANNERS! DOWN WITH TOBUSCUS! LONG LIVE THE TR!

Damnit seananners.
Always taking X's glorious titles

So... Anybody know of any good TR outfits?

[Gabeux]

I think I'll try VS tonight, since I can't get myself to like the NC starter weapons. I liked the default one that comes with the Heavy Assault, though.

And in defense of starter guns: In Battlefield 2142 nobody could stop me with my beloved Krylov FA-37 AR, default PAC Assault Rifle.
My KD could easily reach 5:1 and up with that thing, if I wasn't such a rusher..
But it was awesome days anyway 

Anyways, I think only VS may have gun like that.

Are there any B12 VS outfits somewhere?

[miauw62]

A friend of mine just found out that uncerted reavers ARE effective in A2A.
Grab a reaver, find an enemy lib, fly into lib.
Enjoy certs.

Btw, is the alpha squad medic gun better than the default one? I tend to use the default one, because the alpha squad one runs out of ammo really quickly. Haven't bought any attachmens tough, so i would like to know before i do.

[da_nang]

A friend of mine just found out that uncerted reavers ARE effective in A2A.
Grab a reaver, find an enemy lib, fly into lib.
Enjoy certs.

I once flew an uncerted Liberator into a Reaver and survived.

[miauw62]

Well, i guess you could try to flip it over and fly into one of the wings. This kind of thing seems to be very random, sometimes you'll blow up, other times you wont.

[Jelle]

So I'm in an AA phalanx (wich I painstakingly fixed, these things take a lot of repairing), a liberator flies up. I unload an entire salvo until overheated, the lib casually takes every single hit then proceeds to explode my turret in two shots. Yeah sure AA, works as intended. Nerf that dalton gun already 

[Darkening Kaos]

One Phalanx won't do the job, you need at least three working together to take out one liberator before it rapes you, and before any of the turrets overheat.

Even better is if you can hit it with the AV Phalanx before it gets too close and above your line of fire.  AA gunners will love-you-long-time if you can clobber it a few times.

[SalmonGod]

Are there any B12 VS outfits somewhere?

I play VS on Waterson, but I think I may be the only one.

Not playing too often right now, though.

[Thexor]

One Phalanx won't do the job, you need at least three working together to take out one liberator before it rapes you, and before any of the turrets overheat.

Yeah... except most towers (like the Crossroads Watchtower that us NC guys often fight over) only have two AA Phalanx turrets. And they're on opposite sides of the tower. 

I can understand that one AA turret can't kill an ESF in a single volley - otherwise, flying near a single AA turret would mean instant death. The problem is that a properly-kitted ESF can kill the AA turret in a single volley as well. It'd be a lot more balanced if AA Phalanx turrets had a ~66% resistance to all air weapons - suddenly, ESFs can fly close to a defended location at the cost of some of their health, but they can't destroy the turret and then wreak havoc at will.

[timferius]

I think the best solution would be some sort of air shield for the aa guns. Basically make it really hard for air units to take them out. Aa should be countered by ground, not air.

[miauw62]

The devs don't agree.

"Air should only be countered by air!".

Uuugh.
I already said my metaphor: It's like rock paper scissors, where scissors is only killed by scissors and scissors owns everything else.

[Glowcat]

Double burster AA MAXes are decent but Skyguards (stupid Lightning version... gimme my buggies back) and especially the Heavy's G2A launcher are lacking, even as deterrents. Then there's the whole not rewarding business which means nobody really wants to play AA unless they have to.

Still, a few of those MAX units + some friendly ESFs make for clear skies usually. You can also take a few shots at low flying ESFs who forget they can be hurt by small arms fire.

[Knight of Fools]

I had an ESF make the mistake of trying to get really close to shoot/ram my Flash while I was travelling. I hopped out and unloaded an entire clip of ammo into him, and was surprised when it took him down to half health.

Naturally, he flew off in a hurry before I could even reload, but hey.

[Vattic]

Always makes me laugh when a squad whole squad opens fire and takes down a mosquito or a scythe with only small arms.