Print

Please login or register.
1 Hour 1 Day 1 Week 1 Month Forever
Login with username, password and session length

[uncool]

A challenge: make a fort that could in theory last forever. Not just for a couple thousand years - forever.

Note that the game does have a mechanic that does limit the longevity of the fort; changing init.txt and d_init.txt is enough. Bonus question: what is that mechanic, and specifically what change would be needed?
=Uncool-

[nanomage]

I'm afraid that has something to do with caged insane vampires walled deep in abandoned mines.

[Iceflame]

A fort that lasts forever?

Well - wall yourself in.
No exit means no entrance, too. Every bad thing is kept outside.

You don't need the outside world to survive.

And don't dig too deep. It may get dangerous down there too.

[kingubu]

I had a fort that lasted forever once.  And then I came down.

[Iceflame]

At least, I think a fort without the possibility of fun wouldn't be... fun.

[caddybear]

It's actually pretty easy, after you get used to the game, if you don't go around making up goals or big projects or challenge mode embarks, it's not that hard to self sustain a fort in a decent embark. It will stay this way until the goblins start bringing siege engines or cave dragons ( and other such big creatures ) gain the ability to demolish walls.

[NRDL]

It's actually pretty easy, after you get used to the game, if you don't go around making up goals or big projects or challenge mode embarks, it's not that hard to self sustain a fort in a decent embark. It will stay this way until the goblins start bringing siege engines or cave dragons ( and other such big creatures ) gain the ability to demolish walls.

Wait, can walls be broken? 

[caddybear]

It's actually pretty easy, after you get used to the game, if you don't go around making up goals or big projects or challenge mode embarks, it's not that hard to self sustain a fort in a decent embark. It will stay this way until the goblins start bringing siege engines or cave dragons ( and other such big creatures ) gain the ability to demolish walls.

Wait, can walls be broken?

Not yet, that's my point. Walling yourself in is too easy.

[Kogut]

It's actually pretty easy, after you get used to the game, if you don't go around making up goals or big projects or challenge mode embarks, it's not that hard to self sustain a fort in a decent embark. It will stay this way until the goblins start bringing siege engines or cave dragons ( and other such big creatures ) gain the ability to demolish walls.

Wait, can walls be broken?

It will stay this way until

[herrbdog]

one limit i can think of: every dwarf will die eventually. every dwarf will need a coffin or slab. practical limit is the max number of coffins/slabs you can place. to prevent ghosts which may cause FUN, thus ending 'forever'.

any other practical limits?

[NRDL]

I'm afraid that has something to do with caged insane vampires walled deep in abandoned mines.

[krenshala]

I'm afraid that has something to do with caged insane vampires walled deep in abandoned mines.

Well, if you can manage to get the insane vampire into the section to be walled off, then technically the cage is optional.

[Minority]

Wooden coffins, its i guess forever would mean that eventually there will be thousands of moods which will require stone. At some point, no more stone (with out trading, but that will also let the monsters in)

[Lagslayer]

You can wall yourself off from the world. You can get all the food and drink your dwarves need to survive daily life. You can get more dwarf babies to replenish your population. You can get everything you need, except more space. If the RNG doesn't give you a bunch of grudges leading to tantrums (or worse), then you will eventually run out of spaces for coffins and slabs. Ghosts will inevitably show up and some of those ghosts will inevitably start killing dwarves. The RNG will always win in the end, because while you can never reach the infinitely high pinnacle, there is always the bottom just a few bad rolls away.

Fun! fact: in a game of tetris where the pieces are truly random, a certain combination of L and S blocks forces you to leave a gap. Repeat and it forces you to fill the screen, regardless of what choices you make.

[Naryar]

If you don't have any tantrums or unhappiness, a fort can go forever, I believe. Most ghosts are quite harmless, unless you had FUN deaths.

Besides, ghosts die of old age and I don't think a dwarf that died of old age can create a ghost.